Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2.fluke 9/24/84; site vax1.fluke.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!fluke!tron From: tron@fluke.UUCP (Peter Barbee) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Is feminism sexism by females? Message-ID: <1168@vax1.fluke.UUCP> Date: Tue, 17-Sep-85 20:13:42 EDT Article-I.D.: vax1.1168 Posted: Tue Sep 17 20:13:42 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Sep-85 04:49:23 EDT References: <415@mhuxr.UUCP> <501@tymix.UUCP> <478@tektools.UUCP> <429@mhuxr.UUCP> Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA Lines: 35 >> Jane Carrasco Caputo >> [discussion of males as sex symbols] However, I really wonder >> if it *is* less offensive to men, simply because they don't have to put >> up with it all the time. It recently happened to my 16-year-old son, who >> is a weight lifter. He was walking around without a shirt on when a carful >> of girls came by, hollering remarks and asking him to turn around. He came >> home and told me what an ego boost it was. He was just disappointed that >> they didn't stop to talk to him. I wonder how many adult men would feel the >> same way. >> >Marcel Simon > >No, Ms Caputo, generic men are not less offended by being considered >a piece of meat, even if one weightlifting teenager sees it as an ego >boost. > A little fuel for the fire; I agree with Jane. It is not often that women treat me as a sex symbol (just a piece of meat), and when they do I *do* like the boost to my ego. It's OK with me if you're attracted to my body, if it turns out that that is all you're attracted to things aren't going to work out anyway. If this happened all the time I'm sure I would tire of it - but once or twice a year is not causing me any pain. Perhaps a *very* big difference is that when a woman whistles at me (it really did happen just the other day, but bike shorts do show off my best features |-). I feel that it is because she likes the way *my* body looks, she is not reacting to just any apparently available male. From what I hear women tend to feel that many of the advances they get (and they get advances, not just catcalls) are aimed at them because they are a woman, not because they are particularly attractive (even though they may well be). Peter B Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com