Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watdcsu.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watnot!watdcsu!dmcanzi From: dmcanzi@watdcsu.UUCP (David Canzi) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Rape (The nature of reality) Message-ID: <1691@watdcsu.UUCP> Date: Mon, 23-Sep-85 22:40:25 EDT Article-I.D.: watdcsu.1691 Posted: Mon Sep 23 22:40:25 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 24-Sep-85 23:46:47 EDT References: <25100002@smu> <25100003@smu> <2569@sun.uucp> <761@masscomp.UUCP> <1652@watdcsu.UUCP> <4251@amdcad.UUCP> Reply-To: dmcanzi@watdcsu.UUCP (David Canzi) Organization: University of Woolamaloo Lines: 36 Summary: In article <4251@amdcad.UUCP> linda@amdcad.UUCP (Linda Seltzer) writes: >In article <1652@watdcsu.UUCP>, dmcanzi@watdcsu.UUCP (David Canzi) writes: >> >> Any statement to the effect that women can do something about rape is >> >> always automatically interpreted by somebody as "blaming the victim." >> >> Saying that women can do something about rape does in fact imply some >> >> responsibility on their part. This is not the same as saying that >> >> when a woman who has made some effort to avoid rape gets raped anyway, >> >> that it's her fault. >> > >> Women as a class can only protect themselves as a class by acting as a >> class. In the meantime, until this marvelous global consensus is >> reached, women can only protect themselves individually. Those who do >> are less likely to be victims. >> >It was reported last week that the state of California fined a nursing home >because an 82 year old woman was raped there. She died several hours >later, and homicide charges were being considered as part of the >investigation. > >Now, what could this woman have done to prevent rape? Nothing, I guess. I wonder what you think it proves, though. Maybe you think that, since you can get raped no matter what you do, you might as well do whatever you please? "Non-smokers get lung cancer too, so I might as well smoke." Do you accept that line of argument? Or maybe you're taking issue with my statement that women can do something to avoid rape, and you feel that this woman's case proves me wrong, because she was helpless. Well, most women are not that helpless. If I rephrased the statements to say "most women can do something about rape", would you still object? -- David Canzi Hmmm, folks must not be heavily into freedom these days. -- Garfield Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com