Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site mtfmp.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!mtuxo!mtfmp!lje From: lje@mtfmp.UUCP (L.ELSER) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Rape (The nature of reality) Message-ID: <549@mtfmp.UUCP> Date: Wed, 31-Dec-69 18:59:59 EDT Article-I.D.: mtfmp.549 Posted: Wed Dec 31 18:59:59 1969 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Sep-85 07:29:43 EDT References: <25100002@smu> <25100003@smu> <2569@sun.uucp> <761@masscomp.UUCP> <1652@watdcsu.UUCP> <4251@amdcad.URe: Rape (The nature of reality) Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Holmdel NJ Lines: 35 What does David mean by "things we (women) can do to avoid rape"?? Does he mean stay home and lock the doors? I find that answer totally unacceptable. Several years ago the campus police at my school came up with a novel way of handling the problem of rape on campus. When they saw a woman or a small group of women walking after dark, they would hand them cards that said "If I were a rapist, you'ld be in trouble." Women have every right to go to the library, the dining hall, other dorms, stores, bars, etc. without being accosted. Our presence on the streets at night (or during the day) does not provoke rape. We should not be expected to lock ourselves away or be constantly escorted. It is unfortunate that we ARE expected to curtail our activities to "avoid" rape. I take Karate in part to learn how I can protect myself. I will not hide like a child from the world to "avoid" rape, but I WILL be damn sure I can run, scream, and, if necessary, kill to prevent rape. This may sound unnecessarily bitchy or paranoid, but I live in a city, I enjoy my freedom, and I will defend myself with no more force than I need to get away. If that includes seriously injuring someone who has attacked me (and, I must presume, would not hesitate to do me harm!!) so be it. Define your terms, please, David. I believe that every woman should learn self-defense, and be prepared to use it, but NO ONE is responsible for the actions of criminals but the criminals themselves. Lisa Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com