Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site reed.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!reed!ellen From: ellen@reed.UUCP (Ellen Eades) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Re: When are you a man/woman/lady ? Message-ID: <1936@reed.UUCP> Date: Fri, 27-Sep-85 02:17:14 EDT Article-I.D.: reed.1936 Posted: Fri Sep 27 02:17:14 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 29-Sep-85 07:54:00 EDT References: <1052@ubc-vision.UUCP> Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon Lines: 27 > Subject: Re: When are you a man/woman? > > Does anyone object to being called a lady? > I object to using it indiscriminately. Not every woman deserves it. In other > words, it is something that is earned. You can't ask others to call you that. > Farzin Mokhtarian I object to being called a lady, especially in the implications of the above. Is Farzin saying that s/he is going to judge whether or not I am 'deserving' of this term (I assume that what is meant here by 'lady' is something like, a woman who exhibits traits of decorum & modesty which are considered assets by the patriarchal society we live in)? What gives Farzin the right to judge, and who says I would want to 'deserve' such an appelation anyway?! Thanks, but no thanks; 'lady' is an emotionally-laden term which is to 'woman' somewhat like 'Oriental' is to 'Asian'; and as a member of the two latter groups, I hope to avoid the former terms. Yes, I know, you wouldn't have called me a lady anyway... Ellen -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Who's been repeating all that hard stuff to you?" "I read it in a book," said Alice. - - - - - - - - - - - - - tektronix!reed!ellen Brought to you by Super Global Mega Corp .com