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From: cheryl@lasspvax.UUCP (Cheryl Stewart)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Name Changes ("traditions that have evolved" disappearing)
Message-ID: <567@lasspvax.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 1-Oct-85 12:46:45 EDT
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Posted: Tue Oct  1 12:46:45 1985
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Reply-To: cheryl@lasspvax.UUCP (Cheryl Stewart)
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Hey everybody!! A net.shouting-match between a real-live authoritarian
patriarch  (Frankie) and a snarling, unruly she-devil of a (GASP!)
independent woman. 

>> 
>>    Hey, what's wrong with divorce????!!!!  If it weren't for the
>>    time-honored social contract of divorce, I'd still be MARRIED!!  Yuk-ola!!
>> 

Frankie say:
>
>Ask your kids.
>
    All of my children AND GRANDCHILDREN approve of my lifestyle 
    and marital status.  Do yours?

Frankie say,                      
>> >I choose to ride the train of values and tradition because I can at least
>> >have some perspective about it's destination, if you want, you have the 
>> >choice of riding an untested, untried vehicle going only to God knows where.

>>     Scaredy-cat, scaredy-cat!  Better to live a life millions have 
>>     already lived, rather than your own, huh?  DARE to be boring!!!

Frankie say,
>I'm more an individual than people like you who are sucked along with the
>currents and don't have a damn thing to hang onto.
>

Look Bub, I hang onto cold hard cash and red hot men (and a certain
of legal permutation thereof).  If you don't like it, then I'll tell you
what:  there's a "train of values and tradition" leaving at 7:14 EMT. 
Be under it.   

>> >> Wake up -- you are living in a changing world.

Frankie say,
>> >Changing to what?You assume all change is for the best or just best for you?

>> 
>>      Changes are happening whether you like it or not.
>>      If you don't wake up to the changes, you won't survive
>>      the changes.  Face it:  some social institutions are 
>>      dinosaurs,  changing too slowly to keep up.  
>>      Some are Irish Elk, changing too fast and for the wrong
>>      reasons.   Don't look here for the answers!  You 
>>      don't even know how to ask a question!

Frankie say,
>Again, change to what?  Just because you find change is good for you does
>not mean it is good for everyone.  Wake up and realize that small tidbit
>of info, well you?  I must ask this; aren't you just somewhat self-serving
>here, hoping that by change you will realize some goal that is good for you
>but has no real impact on the rest of us?  If this is the case then good 
>for you, I hope you realize your goals.  In this case, change can be good
>for you and totally indifferent to me.  

An environmental change that I can adapt to (and that you can't) is good for me
(and my kids) -- and bad for you (and your kids, unless they're smart
enough to rebel).   Of course I'm self-serving.  Whom would you rather
I serve?  Some MAN?  Gag me with a glass slipper! Oh, barf!

So what's the score?  Patriarchs 3, She-devils 6?  Let's let 
the audience decide!!!  

"Go away or I will taunt you a second time!"

                        Cheryl Stewart


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