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From: robert@fear.UUCP (Robert Plamondon)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: pornography, censorship
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Date: Mon, 30-Sep-85 15:47:42 EDT
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Posted: Mon Sep 30 15:47:42 1985
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Summary: A message from the Ministry of Truth


> > 	If you only wish to protect ideas you agree with from censorship, then
> > you do not, by my definition, believe in freedom of speech.

[emphasis mine] 

John Chapman:
> I don't.  I fully expect and accept that other people will have different
  ~~~~~~~~
> ideas and that they have the right to express them. I don't however think
> this is some sort of god-given right.  I think the right to expression
> ends when what is being said is wilfully false, encourages violence, or
> promotes hatred and divisiveness.
 
...to be determined by the ever-vigilant Ministry of Truth. Please,
John, drop the other shoe.  You've admitted that you don't believe
in freedom of speech -- why not admit that you don't believe in free
society, either? Your previous postings have shown a consistant
belief that there should be an elite that dictates what the lowly
serfs say, do, and believe, but you haven't quite said it outright.

While you're at it, could you please explain how your position on
state censorship differs from that of, say, South Africa. Is it that
you would have different rulers? Different peasants? That your
oligarchy would consist of people like you, but other oligarchies do
not?

You would censor seditious statements like mine if you were in
charge, wouldn't you?

-- 

		Robert Plamondon
		{turtlevax, resonex, cae780}!weitek!robert


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