Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!ucdavis!ucbvax!sri-ai.arpa!AIList-REQUEST From: AIList-REQUEST@SRI-AI.ARPA (AIList Moderator Kenneth Laws) Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: AIList Digest V3 #144 Message-ID: <8510140603.AA04597@UCB-VAX> Date: Sun, 13-Oct-85 23:58:00 EDT Article-I.D.: UCB-VAX.8510140603.AA04597 Posted: Sun Oct 13 23:58:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 15-Oct-85 07:34:05 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.ARPA Reply-To: AIList@SRI-AI Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 348 AIList Digest Monday, 14 Oct 1985 Volume 3 : Issue 144 Today's Topics: News - Grace Murray Hopper Award, Intelligence & Learning - An Appreciation of Our Own Make-up, Archive Services - BITNIC Server for Recent Issues & VPI Full Archive (Micro LISP Search) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu 10 Oct 85 22:49:02-PDT From: Ken Laws Subject: Grace Murray Hopper Award From the October issue of CACM: Cordell Green of Kestrel Institute was chosen "for establishing a theoretical basis for logic programming and providing a resolution theorem proven to carry out a programming task by constructing the result which the computer is to compute. For proving a constructive technique correct and for presenting an effective method for constructing the answer; these contributions providing an early theoretical foundation for Prolog and logic." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 85 11:42:41 GMT From: gcj%qmc-ori.uucp@ucl-cs.arpa Subject: ``An Appreciation of Our Own Make-up'' >From the Guardian newspaper, 10 October 1985:- ``What he (Alan Kay) would like to see AI people trying to build is "not superhumans or humans, but mammals," contrivances that can explore and learn but do not have to use language or learn differential calculus." Ultimately, he asserts, "the basic end of AI research is an appreciation of our own make-up." '' I find the idea that these "contrivances" do not have the need to make use of language rather strange, since there must be some form of communication required between us and them and that will be termed language. The more important message of the short quote is the repetition of the idea that intelligence is learning, starting from square one and building a model of the world that is in one's view, and the view from the chip must be through the language of data. Gordon Joly gcj%qmc-ori@ucl-cs.arpa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 85 12:01 EDT From: Henry Nussbacher Subject: Database service available for back issues of Ai-List This is to announce that some new services have been added to the inter-network server running at Bitnic. Certain selected Arpanet digests are now being loaded into a Spires database and are therefore searchable from anywhere as long as you can send RFC822 mail. If you are interested in using this service, send a piece of mail to: DATABASE%BITNIC.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA or DATABASE%BITNIC.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU and have as the first 3 lines of your file (case does not matter): help help arpanet help design The server will send back to you 3 help files describing how to use the internet server, how to search Arpanet digests and how the whole thing was designed. Read over the section on "Signup" carefully before making further use of the Database server. Presently, the following 5 Arpanet forums are being loaded into the Database: Name Retention Period ============= ================ Ai-List 2 months Info-Ibmpc 2 months Info-Mac 2 months Info-Graphics 3 months Info-Nets 3 months The retention period is set for a short duration in order to see if Bitnic can handle the volume of data that needs to be stored in Spires. This service was initialized on October 4th, 1985 so currently there are just a few items available in the Database. Example of search command: FIND TEXT UNIX (IN INFO-IBMPC TABLE would find all entries in Info-Ibmpc that contain the word UNIX. An entry is just the section within a "digested" digest that makes reference to the word UNIX. For further details read over the help files. Henry Nussbacher (Hank@Bitnic.Bitnet) Bitnet Development and Operations Center ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 85 18:39 EST From: Ed Fox Subject: reply to query on micros and LISP From: france (Robert France) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 85 14:35:52 edt To: fox, sharan Subject: Re: chance to do a useful search Ken: Robert Blum on 3 Oct asked for information on "currently marketed LISPs for micros" including pointers to review articles. While our new system that will classify and work with components of messages is not yet ready, our adaptation of the SMART system is running and ready for queries just like this. Robert France did a search with the following results. Feel free to publish in AIList or to send directly to Blum. Send other queries along too! I need then for experimentation, and only request that the author of the query be willing to tell me which messages are relevant to the question. Thanks, Ed Fox [At the risk of having this message show up in all future searches, I've decided to pass it along. I deleted one false hit (a query from Rene Bach), and I remember at least one other very lengthy Lisp review that was not found. -- KIL] _______ .I 418 .W Tuesday, 20 Sep 1983 .V Volume 1 .U Issue 59 .D Mon, 19 Sep 1983 11:41 EDT .N .A WELD%MIT-OZ@MIT-MC .S Micro LISPs .B For a survey of micro LISPs see the August and Sept issues of Microsystems magazine. The Aug issue reviews muLISP, Supersoft LISP and The Stiff Upper Lisp. I believe that the Sept issue will continue the survey with some more reviews. Dan _______ .I 1113 .W Thursday, 8 Mar 1984 .V Volume 2 .U Issue 27 .D Tue 6 Mar 84 15:48:55-PST .N Sam Hahn .A SHahn@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA .S IQLISP Source .B The source for IQLisp is: Integral Quality, Inc. P.O. Box 31970 Seattle, WA 98103 (206) 527-2918 Claims to be similar to UCI Lisp, except function def's are stored in cells within identifiers, not on property lists; arg. handling is specified in the syntax of the expression defining the function, I/O functions take an explicit file argument, which defaults to the console; doesn't support FUNARGS. IQLisp does provide: 32kb character strings, 77000 digit long integers, IEEE format floating point, point and line graphics, ifc to assembly coded functions, 31 dimensions to arrays, Costs $175 for program and manual, PCDOS only. I've taken the liberty to include some of their sales info for those who may not have heard of IQLisp. It's fairly new, and they claim to soon make a generic MSDOS version (though probably without graphics support). _______ .I 1264 .W Thursday, 12 Apr 1984 .V Volume 2 .U Issue 45 .D 11 Apr 1984 0206 PST .N Reply-to: LARRY@JPL-VLSI.ARPA .A Larry Carroll A.C. McIntosh, USADACS@STL-HOST1. _______ .I 2512 .W Sunday, 20 Jan 1985 .V Volume 3 .U Issue 5 .D Thu 17 Jan 85 00:33:35-PST .N Sam Hahn .A SHahn@SUMEX-AIM.ARPA .S Lisp for PC .B If you're using PC's and looking for a Lisp, I'd suggest TLC-Lisp, from The Lisp Company. I myself have not used GCLisp, but have been quite impressed with TLC-Lisp, which has a compiler, an object-class system, packages, auto-load entities, and costs less than half what GCLisp costs. TLC is John Allen's (The Anatomy of Lisp) company, located in Redwood Estates, CA. I have no connection with TLC except as a customer. -- sam hahn _______ .I 2773 .W Friday, 8 Mar 1985 .V Volume 3 .U Issue 31 .D Thu 7 Mar 85 08:44:14-PST .N Ken Laws .A Laws@SRI-AI.ARPA .S The Artificial Intelligence Report .B Ted Markowitz recently asked about newsletters. [...] The following are the topics covered in back issues of The Artificial Intelligence Report. I'm told that back issues are still available, but I don't know the price. [...] Vol. 1, No. 3, March, 1984 AI and the Personal Computer: Expert systems, natural language, LISP; [...] Vol. 2, No. 3, March, 1985 LISP on the PC: TLC LISP, GCLISP; [...] [...] This newsletter was the first one mentioned in AIList. Since that time, it has moved from Los Altos to: Artificial Intelligence Publications Suite Three 3600 West Bayshore Road Palo Alto, CA 94303 - 4229 U. S. A. (415) 424-1447 -- Ken Laws _______ You might try using other keywords (names of micros?) or going further. -- Robert ------------------------------ End of AIList Digest ********************