Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dual.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ucbvax!dual!paul From: paul@dual.UUCP (Baker) Newsgroups: net.arch Subject: Re: More on Metastibility Message-ID: <1146@dual.UUCP> Date: Wed, 9-Oct-85 13:47:20 EDT Article-I.D.: dual.1146 Posted: Wed Oct 9 13:47:20 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 12-Oct-85 14:59:17 EDT References: <442@rna.UUCP>, <552@spar.UUCP> <211@fas.ri.cmu.edu.ARPA> <181@l5.uucp> Organization: Dual Systems, Berkeley, CA Lines: 21 > > All Sun VMEbus cards have good arbiters, with metastability calculated > to be a problem once in a zillion years or so (based on the mfr's specs > on the flipflops that capture and synchronize the signals coming in from > the bus). I would be very interested in seeing some manufacturer's specs on metastability for, say, a 74S74. There do seem to be rules of thumb about such parts, but it is only in the last couple of years that I have seen a manufacturer even admit that a problem might exist. Fairchild are the only company that has put out anything of any substance on the matter, and only about their 74F series. The academics, as usual, are silent about the problem as it is just something messy to do with producing working equipment, and therefore totally uninteresting. Also, how many is a zillion? I would suspect in this case about five to ten. Paul Wilcox-Baker.