Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.8 $; site uicsrd Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsrd!husmann From: husmann@uicsrd.CSRD.UIUC.EDU Newsgroups: net.arch Subject: Re: Cray-2 impressions Message-ID: <1000003@uicsrd> Date: Thu, 17-Oct-85 10:39:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uicsrd.1000003 Posted: Thu Oct 17 10:39:00 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 21-Oct-85 03:58:23 EDT References: <1189@ames.UUCP> Lines: 60 Nf-ID: #R:ames.UUCP:-118900:uicsrd:1000003:000:2173 Nf-From: uicsrd.CSRD.UIUC.EDU!husmann Oct 17 09:39:00 1985 > In article <1189@ames.UUCP>, eugene@ames.UUCP (Eugene Miya) writes: > > I had call to go visit the Cray-2 downstairs. It's tiny. ... > > Gene: > Is it true that the CRAY-2 cpu is really a CRAY-1 (not an X-MP) > cpu, meaning that it has only one path to memory and doesnt do > chaining? So the only major speedup between the X-mp and -2 > cpu's is the faster clock cycle of the 2, 4.1 ns. > Also, I understand that the 256K 64-bit memory is slower than the > memory on the x-mp, but there is a fast 16K memory cache per processor. > So it really looks like a CDC 7600!! > Question is, will the Y-MP be faster? (16 processors, 64Mwords) > > Have you looked at the Cray-2 compiler... I hear its based on the old > CFT1.10 and doesnt have character data (yet). > I'd like to see some comparison timings between the x-mp and the 2. > > > > -- > > [rchrd] = Richard Friedman > Pacific-Sierra Research, 2855 Telegraph #415 > Berkeley, CA 94705 (415) 540 5216 > UUCP: {hplabs,ptsfa,dual}!well!rchrd The Cray-2 brochure I have lists the following facts about the Cray-2: o a 256 *million* word Common memory (not 256K), o *4* Background CPU's, o 1 Foreground CPU; it appears the background CPU's handle the computation and the Foreground CPU "supervises overall system activity among the Foreground Processor, Background Processors, Common Memory, and peripheral controllers," o it looks like each Background CPU has only *one* memory port. New things I noticed in the brochure: o UNIX (of course), o gather and scatter instructions, o semaphores for synchronization. I couldn't find any information about chaining which suggests it's gone. The brochure states the Cray-2 throughput is 6-12 times that of the Cray-1. I have a note scribble on the side that say "X-MP about 3 times." I can't remember if that means the Cray-2 is about three times the X-MP, or if the X-MP is about three times the Cray-1. (?!) Harlan Husmann Center for SuperComputer Research and Development University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign usenet: husmann@uicsrd csnet: husmann@uicsrd.bitnet bitnet: husmann at uiucvme