Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site nmtvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittatc!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!think!harvard!cmcl2!lanl!unm-la!unmvax!nmtvax!aardvark From: aardvark@nmtvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: nut.audio: The "ear" vs. the "instrument" Message-ID: <787@nmtvax.UUCP> Date: Sat, 28-Sep-85 12:46:46 EDT Article-I.D.: nmtvax.787 Posted: Sat Sep 28 12:46:46 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 7-Oct-85 03:11:52 EDT Reply-To: aardvark@nmtvax.UUCP (...and sophisticated metering equipment!) Organization: New Mexico Tech, Socorro Lines: 44 In article <> jj@alice.UUCP writes: >>From allegra!scherzo!petrus!sabre!zeta!epsilon!gamma!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!stolaf!umn-cs!mmm!schley Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969 >>Here we go again... > >Ain't that the truth! > >Not only is your statement wrong, it's offensive, and seemingly >(given net history) deliberately so. > >Any perceptual phenominon that can be heard >can also be measured. Period. The problem is that many people >interpret measurements in ways that are either wrong, >incomplete, or misleading. (Those interpreting the results >are often sincere, by the way.) > >>These are terms used to describe what was measured with the > >You use the word "terms", ergo you must be able to reproduce >what your terms mean. > >>most sensitive instruments (and the only meaningful instruments) that >>audiophiles possess -- OUR EARS. > >This statement proves your belief in the supernatural, now, doesn't >it? You say that OUR EARS are the only meaningful instruments, and >deny that audiophiles have any other important instruments than >their ears. HOO, Boy! What sort of buffoon can sit there and assert that our ears are not important!! I have a deaf friend who comes over occasionally and my stereo is invariably on. And I can sit there and discuss audio tech- nology until I'm blue in the face. It doesn't mean a damn thing to him how many microvolts are generated by my cartridge, or if the S/N ratio is 200dB! What I'm saying is that all those measurements don't mean a thing if you can't hear it. Until someone figures out how to hook us up directly to the source, we have to filter all those specs through our ears. If you don't think our ears are important then let me come over and sever your aural nerves. There, feel better now that those cumbersome ears aren't in the way? ======================================== "What the F*** are 'Robster Craws?'" aardvark!nmtvax!unm-la!lanl!cmcl2/ihnp4/etc