Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site olivee.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!bellcore!petrus!scherzo!allegra!oliveb!olivee!greg From: greg@olivee.UUCP (Greg Paley) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: My damn (new) cartridge don`t work! Was it something that I said? Message-ID: <502@olivee.UUCP> Date: Mon, 7-Oct-85 13:17:06 EDT Article-I.D.: olivee.502 Posted: Mon Oct 7 13:17:06 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 10-Oct-85 06:48:03 EDT References: <3204@teklabs.UUCP>, <474@aero.ARPA> <4378@alice.UUCP>, <494@olivee.UUCP> <4383@alice.UUCP> Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino, Ca Lines: 41 > Greg, you should be a bit more careful when you say > "not true", since it's only not true to you, or > to people who have the same perceptual ?style?ethos?method?. > I should have been clearer. My "not true" comment was not directed at the surmise that the Shure cartridges were the best. It was directed at the comment that their low price was all that was keeping them out of the snob circles. My point was that there are cartridges in the same price bracket that are "in" with the snob circles, and that the Grace and Grado were examples. Being a snob and an elitist, I also happen to prefer the sound of Grace and Grado to the Shure, although I prefer the Audioquest to either those or the Shure. Aside from personal tastes, the question of which cartridge sounds better is going to depend quite a bit on the associated equipment. Aside from the "trackability", one of the important advantages of the Shure cartridges is the wide range of arms within which they will work well. The Grace, on the other hand, demands a very rigid but low-mass arm and considerable flexibility for alignment - the azimuth, overhang, and VTA are more critical, and therefore more difficult to set up. If your arm won't allow you to change the VTA, or is mounted so that you can't get the overhang right (as is the case with many turntables that come with the arm already installed), you're likely to encounter much more of a performance degradation with the Grace than a Shure. The Grado cartridges I've encountered are less fussy in this regard. The Audioquest, on the other hand, needs a high mass arm and considerable resonance damping on the headshell. These are the sort of issues that I, frankly, find a major pain in the ass and which finally drove me toward buying primarily CD's, even though I actually prefer the sound of a number of LP's. The amp and speakers make a difference also, of course. When I first switched from a Shure V15-5 to a Grace F9-Ruby, I preferred the Grace, even when listening through the Telefunken receiver and Bose 601's I had then. When, however, I switched to Hafler electronics and Vandersteen IIc speakers, the gain in detail and accuracy that the Grace offered over the Shure became far more apparent. - Greg Paley