Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site teddy.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!teddy!rdp From: rdp@teddy.UUCP Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: The ear vs. instruments Message-ID: <1400@teddy.UUCP> Date: Tue, 8-Oct-85 15:34:52 EDT Article-I.D.: teddy.1400 Posted: Tue Oct 8 15:34:52 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 10-Oct-85 13:31:42 EDT Reply-To: rdp@teddy.UUCP (Richard D. Pierce) Distribution: na Organization: GenRad, Inc., Concord, Mass. Lines: 66 [] The response to my article about correlations of hearing vs. measurements has been universally quite favorable. I have received quite a bit of mail about it, and I thank the respondants for their letters. I have yet to receive the (I thought) inevitable flames from those among us who often flame only for flaming's sake, but, rest assured, I am hunkering down, reinforcing my bunker against the expected onslaught of "Oh Yeah?" replies. Two recurrent themes are apparent in many of the replies. The first is "where do I find a journal with this sort of information?" Well, I am not aware of any such publication devoted to either mainstream consumer audio products or the audiophile (nutcase?) market. My departure from the business is not totally coincidental with the rise in popularity of such "journals" as Absolute Sound and the like. In the face of such drivel, it is hard for a person with any reasonable sense of integrity to stay involved in the audio business. I fear that, having reviewed the currently available journals, nothing strikes me as being worth the postage. I might be accused as being either too hard or too snooty, but when there is much objective information to be had, there is little place for the witch-doctor PHD or the "golden-ear" mentality. I especially found the reference to joining a local audio club for "ear training" to most pretentious. Secondly, several people asked me questions like, "Well, if these journals don't exist, then why don't YOU write one?" Well, my answer is simply a correlary of Suffolk Audio's First Law of Acoustical Physics, to wit, "Any idiot can write an audiophile magazine, and, unfortunately, many do." Why, if there are people interested inn objective measurments and listening data about equipment, do the magic rags flourish so well. Are there 2500 people out there who would be willing to pay $25 for such a journal? I have seen no evidence of it, but then, I haven't been looking very hard. There are other reasons why I don't do thism sort of work. Back when I was involved, my equipment inventory was such that it embarrased the research labs for the likes of companies like Phase Linear, JBL, Advent, AR, Harmon Kardon, and so forth. I had GR graphic level recorders, 1/3 and 1/10 octave spectrum analyzers, high precision THD and IMD analyzers, narrow band spectrum analyzers, scopes, precision, low distortion (<.001%) signal sources, etc., etc. For insurance purposes, I once had to come up with replacement costs for all this stuff, and I came up with a conservative figure of something like $600,000!. Also, it is something that cannot be done by a single person. Inorder to ensure impartiality, it was necessary to have one person conduct the measurements, and another to conduct the listening tests. Where, in addition, does one find critical, non-partial guinea pigs (by critical, I don't mean "golden ear", I mean questioning, skeptical, etc.)? I figure it might cost $25,000 to equip a lab with the minimal amount of instrumentation necessary. One piece that I briefly explored was a programmable FFT analyzer. (I actually am much closer to that now, owning, as I do, a PDP-11/23 with 16 channels of 100KHz A/D. But I don't have Unix, thank God!) Lastly, when does one do all of the work? I am casually interested in such a venture, more as a diversion than anything else. I refuse to be the crusader for truth and justice I once was, it is too frustrating to deal with the AbNonsense out there. If anyone has any comments or suggestions, or might be willing to participate, let me know. The worst that could possibly happen is I actually do it! Dick Pierce