Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site tekgvs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!tekcrl!tekgvs!keithe From: keithe@tekgvs.UUCP (Keith Ericson) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: on crossovers - active vs. passive Message-ID: <1259@tekgvs.UUCP> Date: Fri, 18-Oct-85 14:19:57 EDT Article-I.D.: tekgvs.1259 Posted: Fri Oct 18 14:19:57 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 20-Oct-85 05:18:28 EDT Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 78 Gentlefolk - The discussion of passive crossover design and the problems involved in modelling the driver(s) is getting lots of net.audio space lately. But, friends, it's *old technology* and not really current in todays audio market-place, especially for those capable - as I believe lots of net.audio reader are - of some relatively simple electronic construction. (Right now you're saying 'what IS he talking about! - bear with me...) OK - the problem in a conventional (i.e., passive-crossover) system is that you've got this monstrous power amplifier, with a fraction of an ohm output impedance, trying to control an electro-mechanical motor. The motor - the speaker - has a "mind of it's own" as to what it wants to do with the signal thrown at it and it will, if left alone, proceed to do whatever it thinks best with the signal. One way you can start to "leave it alone" is to interpose a crossover network between the amplifier and the driver. This prevents the amplifier from damping out the extraneous motion that the driver wants to make. It's like this: Put a long-duration pulse to the speaker (long duration being several times longer than 1 over the resonant frequency). The cone moves out, then moves back. But when it moved out, it probably over-shot the "correct" location and oscillated into place, finally getting to where it was supposed to be. Thes oscillations generate a "back emf" (remember that from your power engineering classes?) that tries to drive the amplifier. But if the amplifier (1) has a low output impedance and (2) is connected pretty close (i.e., through a very low impedance connection) then the back-emf will have to generate a lot of current to exist. Instead, the back emf "gives up" and the speaker doesn't oscillate around the resting location (yeah, I know that's really simplified, but it gets the point across). With the passive crossover there's lots of circuitry that can allow the current from the back-emf to flow and not be damped out by the low output impedance of the power amplifier. I's like trying to drive your car with a spring between your hands and the steering wheel. You can steer, but bumps will throw the car all over the place 'cause you can't correct for them with the springs in the way. The best way around this is to use a power amplifier for each speaker, and put active crossovers between the pre-amp and the power amplifiers. The advantages include the following: 1) The crossovers are in a well controlled impedance. (You could even use a passive implementation - if you really wanted to for some reason.) 2) The crossovers work with low-level signals instead of having to be capable of handling tens (hundreds?) of watts of power. 3) The speakers are driven directly by the (low output- impedance) power amplifier. 4) Active crossovers completely do away with inductors, the hardest part of any passive, high-level crossover to fabricate. In the "old days" when good power amplifiers were prohibitively expensive it was important to reduce their number. That just isn't the case now days. Today almost anyone can afford a multiple power amplifier system. Except that to *buy* the active crossovers is prohibitively expensive. But they are quite simple to build, and there is really no "magic" involved. Just check into National Semiconductor's "Audio/Radio Handbook" publication (circa 1980). (But use the Signetics 5534 op-amp.) Well this has gone on long enuff. If you haven't hit the 'n' key by now you must !really! be interested in this stuff... keith Keith Ericson at TekLabs (resident factious factotum) Tektronix, PO 500, MS 58-383 Beaverton OR 97077 (503)627-6042 uucp: [ucbvax|decvax|ihnp4|(and_many_others)]!tektronix!tekgvs!keithe CSnet: keithe@tek ARPAnet: keithe.tek@rand-relay -- Keith Ericson at TekLabs (resident factious factotum) Tektronix, PO 500, MS 58-383 Beaverton OR 97077 (503)627-6042 uucp: [ucbvax|decvax|ihnp4|(and_many_others)]!tektronix!tekgvs!keithe CSnet: keithe@tek ARPAnet: keithe.tek@rand-relay