Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/12/84; site aero.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!trwrb!trwrba!aero!jsg From: jsg@aero.ARPA (Jeffrey S. Gruszynski) Newsgroups: net.auto.tech Subject: Ignition noise Message-ID: <506@aero.ARPA> Date: Wed, 16-Oct-85 12:52:44 EDT Article-I.D.: aero.506 Posted: Wed Oct 16 12:52:44 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 19-Oct-85 07:52:13 EDT Reply-To: jsg@aero.UUCP (Jeffrey S. Gruszynski) Organization: The Aerospace Corp., El Segundo, CA Lines: 61 Ignition noise on stereos: Ignition noise is wideband electromagnetic interference (EMI) generated by automobile ignition systems. It is caused by a combination of electrical interactions in this system. The necessary factor for this EMI is the presence of a spark gap in the circuit. Electrical sparks and arcs (1) all have negative electrical resistances, i.e. an increase in current produces a decrease in voltage across the gap. This means that electrically (and mathematically) positive (garden variety) resistances can be reduced or cancelled. Positive resistances include resistances in wires and components. This is not to say that no power is dissapated when the resistances are cancelled, but rather the resistance _looks_ like zero to other components in the system. This is the problem, the other components. The ignition system has stray inductances (L) and capacitances (C). When the resistances of a LC system are removed the system will ring at characteristic resonance frequencies. This is the ignition produces interfering RF. It has formed an oscillator. For a variety of reasons the RF is wideband. These include: distributed nature of the LC's and random fluctuation of spark length (i.e. negative resistance) over time. Based on this information and a little knowledge of RF we can conclude a few things: Cause: The RF is being received by the radio itself. Solution: 1. Reduce RF generation. Use resistor plugs, suppression wire (introduces "+" resistance to cancel "-") 2. Reduce RF emissions. Shield plugs and wire Cause: The RF is being received via a ground fault. Solution: 1. Reduce RF sensitivity of power lines Filter power supply. Only DC should pass. Add a low-pass filter. Make sure ALL audio equipment grounds connect to single point with the shortest length of power cable. (2) (1) Sparks and arcs are members of a class of phenomena that result from electrical breakdown of gas and subsequent conduction through the plasma. Arcs are the low voltage/high current version. Sparks the high voltage/ low current version. (2) If not done, the length of car body or extra cable will act like an antenna. Electrically this is the same as adding an RF voltage source between the _equipment_ ground and the _real_ ground. You ground is not at ground! Interestingly, your ignition system works exactly the same way as a spark-gap radio transmitter of early radio fame. good luck! jeff