Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site varian.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!zehntel!zinfandel!varian!fred From: fred@varian.UUCP (Fred Klink) Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: Re: Reynolds 531 Tubes Message-ID: <377@varian.UUCP> Date: Thu, 3-Oct-85 14:21:09 EDT Article-I.D.: varian.377 Posted: Thu Oct 3 14:21:09 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 7-Oct-85 05:48:29 EDT References: <1304@ihlpg.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Varian, Walnut Creek, CA Lines: 34 > Does anybody out there have experience with Reynolds 531 bikes? I'd > particularly like to know how much punishment the frame will take, > how it rides, and whether there are any special problems I should be > aware of. Reynold's 531 (chrom-moly steel) was the standard (along with Columbus tube for Italian bikes), for racing bicycles until about 1979 when Reynold's came up with an improved steel called 753. Columbus has also introduced some new tubing types, e.g. SL and SLX. These new tubes came out mainly to build even lighter, more rigid racing bikes, not because 531 was inadequate. For the average user (I've heard), 531 is still superior to 753 because its more forgiving to being bent and straightened. I've ridden 531 bikes for a dozen years and never had any material problems. In fact, one frame was trashed and severely bent by a car. I've since had it straightened and, while I wouldn't sprint it uphill on the big ring, it's still a very functional frame. I think you'll find your 531 frame to be an all- around great bike, especially if you're graduating from a straight-gauge steel frame. Another note: there's a myth, among racers at least, that after a couple of seasons a steel frame is "thrashed", i.e. turned into a soft, whippy noodle by the powerful legs of the rider. I'm not a metalurgical engineer, but some I know and respect (like my dad), tell me this is patent garbage. Chrom-moly steel either bends, breaks or stays the same but it certainly doesn't soften (more correctly, lose rigidity). My theory is that for the last many dozens of years frame material and/or design improves every two to three years to the point where a new frame performs better than an old one, not due to failure of the old one but due to improved design character- istics of the new ones. Therefore, you test ride a new frame and it appears that your old one has gone south. This myth does have one useful purpose: its easier to justify a new frame to yourself (and your spouse), on the basis of the old one having "gone bad" than of the new ones being "better".