Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site druxo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!drutx!druxo!knf From: knf@druxo.UUCP (FricklasK) Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: Re: Car driver asks for advice from bicyclists Message-ID: <1023@druxo.UUCP> Date: Sun, 20-Oct-85 19:52:25 EDT Article-I.D.: druxo.1023 Posted: Sun Oct 20 19:52:25 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 21-Oct-85 01:04:28 EDT References: <354@sol1.UUCP>, <55@noscvax.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Denver Lines: 40 > > A couple of nights ago I found myself sharing a dark road with a bicyclist > wearing jeans and a dark jacket. He had no reflectors on his bike, and no > lights. Within a quarter of a mile I watched him ride in circles on a road > with a 45mph speed limit, run a red light, and cut from the right-hand side > of a busy road to the left, where he proceeded to ride against the traffic. > Fred Wamsley ihnp4!sol1!s255 In Boulder, where I live, I find some of the bicyclists are INCREDIBLY self-righteous about their riding. By this I mean that if they are allowed to use the right lane, even when the road narrows to one lane they will use the single lane, riding dead center, rather than moving to the right to let cars pass or going onto the sidewalk. If they are going to make a left turn, they will ride dead center of the left lane for the 1/4 mile or so leading up to the turn. Etc., etc. This is usually ok, except for when they get a little rediculous about it- in other words, riding the right lane even when they have a bike path. Occasionally, you even see a "violent biker" -- these guys seem to intentionally get in your way when driving just to cause you grief. Last summer I saw the worst example of this yet. A car was waiting to make a right turn at an intersection, and a biker pulled up along side of him. The car pulled out and started to make the turn, cutting off the biker. The biker pulled out his frame pump and started to ram on the car with it! The car driver opened his window and told the biker to stop it, but this seemed to only piss off the biker more, and he now got off his bike and started to kick the guy's door, putting a fairly large dent in it. The drivers solution: he backed up, drove over the guys bike, wrecking it completely, and drove off. The punchline: the biker (according to a friend) tried to sue the car driver for destruction of property. Has anyone else seen anything like this? '`'` Ken `'`'