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From: ellen@reed.UUCP (Ellen Eades)
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Subject: The Jean Grey Shuffle
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Date: Wed, 23-Oct-85 02:46:36 EDT
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> >> Diane
> >  Ellen
>    Bob

> >> As I understand it, Rachel is the daughter of Jean
> >> and Scott after Jean manages to control her powers.  But
> >> at that time isn't Jean actually Phoenix?  So is Rachel
> >> the daughter of Scott and a reformed Phoenix?  If that's
> >> so, then Rachel can *never* be born in *this* timeline, right?  

> >It's even worse than that.... If Jean/Phoenix is really just a
> >simulacrum of Jean/Marvel Girl, *is* Rachel the daughter of
> >Jean/Grey at all?  or is she the daughter of Scott and the
> >Phoenix?  If she is, is she human (OK, mutant)??  Not to mention,
> >since Madelyne *isn't* Jean Grey, why is Rachel
> >upset that her first child should be a boy?  
 
> If you go by the original Claremont timeline vs. the atrocity we
> now have foisted on us, there was never a dichotomy between
> Jean and Phoenix.  She had her powers stripped from her after
> the battle on the Moon in #137, married Scott, and they had Rachel.
> So Rachel IS the child of Scott and Jean, not the spawn of some
> pan-dimensional being playing at human.

Waitaminnit.  The way I misunderstand it, when Jean gets merged
with the Phoenix, in Rachel's timeline, she stays merged.  Thus,
even though she stripped of the "phoenix" power, the simulacrum
remains as Jean Grey, allowing Rachel to be
the child of Scott and the Phoenix simulacrum.
And Jean-prime stays at the bottom of LI Sound and the Phoenix is
the mother of Rachel -- right? 

Boy.  I have a headache now...
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