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From: bobh@pedsgd.UUCP (Bob Halloran)
Newsgroups: net.comics
Subject: Re: The Jean Grey Shuffle
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Date: Thu, 24-Oct-85 08:56:53 EDT
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In article <2037@reed.UUCP> ellen@reed.UUCP (Ellen Eades) writes:
>> >  Ellen
>>    Bob
>
>> >(Comments on whether Rachel is the daughter of Jean Grey or the
>> > Phoenix simulacrum)
> 
>> (Proposition that Claremont never intended a difference between
>>  Jean and Phoenix, and that Rachel is Jean's child)
>
>Waitaminnit.  The way I misunderstand it, when Jean gets merged
>with the Phoenix, in Rachel's timeline, she stays merged.  Thus,
>even though she stripped of the "phoenix" power, the simulacrum
>remains as Jean Grey, allowing Rachel to be
>the child of Scott and the Phoenix simulacrum.
>And Jean-prime stays at the bottom of LI Sound and the Phoenix is
>the mother of Rachel -- right? 
>
>Boy.  I have a headache now...

	As I (mis)understand it, in Claremont's original timeline,
Jean never 'merged' with anything; the radiation exposure, etc.
boosted HER existing powers to a 'cosmic' level, making HER the Phoenix.
If you recall, this was the period where almost any female character
Claremont got his hands on had her powers amplified (Sue Storm
had her force-field powers boosted, Janet Van Dyne got her 'bio-
energy' stingers, etc.).  So there is no cocoon at the bottom of
the Sound in that timeline; there's a de-powered Jean Grey who
USED to have lotsa power, but had it stripped after losing the
fight on the Moon.  BUT, to borrow Ororo's line after getting
her powers zinged, "my children may "...

						Bob Halloran
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