Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!brl-tgr!wmartin From: wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) Newsgroups: net.consumers Subject: Re: Knife ads Message-ID: <2022@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Wed, 9-Oct-85 15:36:51 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.2022 Posted: Wed Oct 9 15:36:51 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 12-Oct-85 15:40:19 EDT References: <858@cvl.UUCP> Reply-To: wmartin@brl-bmd.UUCP Distribution: net Organization: USAMC ALMSA, St. Louis, MO Lines: 48 In article <858@cvl.UUCP> cas@cvl.UUCP (Cliff Shaffer) writes: >Recently in the Washington Post Magazine and through direct-junk-mail, >I have seen ads for the "MALIN M-15 Survival Knife." >They sell for $5 plus $2 shipping/handling per knife. Ah, a topic that I am a bona-fide expert in... I deal in knives on a part-time basis, not to make any money at it but to buy stuff for my collection at wholesale. These particular survival knives (defining the term as a knife with a hollow handle you can keep matches, fishhooks, line, etc. in) are made in Taiwan, and are not a bad deal for the price. And, for a change, this mail-order campaign, selling them at $7 each, is really dealing at a fair price. My normal wholesale source for these had them at $10 each originally, and then dropped the price to $7 "on sale", where they have been on perpetual sale ever since. (That is a quantity-one wholesale rate.) These very same knives have been offered for $20 or so via numerous ads, both full-page and tiny, in many gun, survivalist, and outdoors magazines. They were available there also in a camouflage finish, which these "Malin" ads do not mention, so that is the main difference. Note the use of "Malin", an obvious play on "Marlin", an old-line name in the gun and outdoors-goods trade. These are not fancy, and the blade steel is not of great quality, but they do cut, and the compass works, and the stuff in the handle is functional. The main defect in these, as with any other hollow-handle survival knife, is the blade-handle joint. To get a hollow handle, you can't have much of a tang on the blade, and it is usually just epoxied in the handle on cheap knives. To get a more solid assembly, you go up in price to a $100 Buckmaster or a $250 handmade custom version. If you want to be able to use a knife as a pry bar and not have it break, you have to have a solid-tang model where the tang extends the full length of the handle. So you give up the storage compartment for strength. So, in general conclusion, they are probably worth the money, unless these mass-sales models are distinctly different and inferior to the Taiwanese models I have already seen. That seems unlikely -- I think they just bought a vast quantity and got a good price. You should expect to spend some time with a good stone or sharpening kit (like a Lansky or E-Z-Sharp) putting a decent edge on this knife after you get it. The factory cannot take the time to do much of a honing job at the prices they are getting! For a knife to throw in your car trunk as insurance against the time you might need it, it is worth it. I am giving one of mine to a friend this Christmas for just that purpose. Regards, Will