Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 SMI; site primesun.uucp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!cybvax0!frog!primesun!doug From: doug@primesun.uucp Newsgroups: net.cooks Subject: Re: Re: (Hard) apple cider (and vinegar Message-ID: <421@primesun.uucp> Date: Sat, 19-Oct-85 12:33:55 EDT Article-I.D.: primesun.421 Posted: Sat Oct 19 12:33:55 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 24-Oct-85 00:22:14 EDT Sender: notes@primesun.uucp Organization: Prime Computer R&D Lines: 22 Nf-ID: #R:nbires:-12900:primesun:2800001:000:870 Nf-From: primesun!doug Oct 18 10:22:00 1985 On the subject of alcohol vs. vinegar as the results of fermentation. I've done my share of homebrew beer and have yet to see vinegar result. THE major factor in the production of vinegar (If I remember my bio course long ago) is air (oxygen). The little bacteria that produces the vinegar needs air. If the container is air locked by using a water trap or a balloon (for you low budget cider makers) then the air is excluded by the carbon dioxide produced by the yeast. As another pointed out cleanliness is important but air will make the difference. --- Douglas Rand Usenet: decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!primesun!doug Landline: (617) - 879 - 2960 Mail: Prime Computer, 500 Old Conn Path, MS10C-17, Framingham, Ma 01701 --> The above opinions are mine alone and are not influenced by narcotics, my employer, my cat or the clothes I wear.