Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site kestrel.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!Glacier!kestrel!king From: king@kestrel.ARPA Newsgroups: net.emacs Subject: To GNU or not to GNU? Message-ID: <1838@kestrel.ARPA> Date: Mon, 14-Oct-85 16:01:46 EDT Article-I.D.: kestrel.1838 Posted: Mon Oct 14 16:01:46 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 16-Oct-85 05:50:50 EDT Organization: Kestrel Institute, Palo Alto, CA Lines: 53 I'm posting this publicly because my site can't send to bocklin.UUCP for some reason. To: whm@bocklin@udel-relay Subject: how to simulate CONS reasonably "It has a real Lisp (cons and all)." -- To tell the truth, I'm not too wild about Lisp. Sure, Unipress Emacs has only Mock Lisp, but I've developed a unique solution for this particular problem and I consider this advantage of GNU Emacs over vanilla Unipress Emacs to be non-relevant (for my purposes). Do you have a reasonable solution? When we were running mucklisp I did it by using magic character strings - it turned out to be extremely slow. I'd be interested in hearing your solution. An advantage of GNUmacs is that it has version control in release 16-60. This means that a user-controllable number of old versions of the file are kept, rather than just one. The cons advantage is non-negligible. I tried to write a version control package for unipress emacs and gave up after I had given it a moderate amount of effort. I then took a no-version-control screw while running GNU emacs, so I said to myself "alright, not having VC cost me three hours, so I'll spend three hours building a version control." No problem - I had enough time left over to make it pretty, and sent it in to RMS. This incident demonstrates three advantages of GNUmacs: 1> it now has VC. Unipress emacs has had it on their wish list since 12/84 (I asked for it to be put there). 2> When you want to change system behavior, you can. 3> You've got a community working for you. -dick PS: when we got our copy we made both available to the user community and counted the uses. After a week nobody used Unipress emacs. We removed that option. Nobody complained. "None of this represents the opinion of anybody but myself."