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From: barth@tellab1.UUCP (Barth Richards)
Newsgroups: net.flame,net.music,net.politics
Subject: Re: Need Frank Zappa Quote!  Slade Gordon in tears?
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Date: Tue, 8-Oct-85 14:03:35 EDT
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Posted: Tue Oct  8 14:03:35 1985
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Reply-To: barth@tellab1.UUCP (Barth Richards)
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In article <775@psivax.UUCP> al@psivax.UUCP (Al Schwartz) writes:
>In article <11843@rochester.UUCP> ray@rochester.UUCP (Ray Frank) writes:
>
>>Yes, I heard that because of Zapperonie and his geek friends, that the general
>>IQ of Washington was lowered a good 50 points while they were there.  The only
>>difference between the Zapperonie types and mushrooms is that mushrooms don't
>>spurt out oral diarrhea.  The only similarities are their IQ's.  One thing the
>>geeks did learn from mushrooms is: feed'em bullshit and watch'em grow.
>>"It's not easy living with mushrooms you know; the dark, the damp, the cold
>>environment, kind of gets to your bones, and half the time they won't even
>>talk to ya, and when they do, it's over yer haid."       
>
>I think this posting reveals the following things:
>
>1. Ray Frank knows nothing about Frank Zappa, including his IQ.
>2. Ray Frank has less creativity than the average third grader.  All slander
>with no substantiation.
>3. Ray Frank should probably keep from posting things like this, unless he
>has something more interesting to say.
>4. This posting should probably be in net.flame.

On points 1, 2, and 3. HEAR! HEAR! I heartily second that!

On point 4. I vehemently disagree. Irritating stupidity such as this does not
belong on any net. If Mr. Frank intended his comments to be sarcastic, then I
would retract my labeling of stupidity and instead remind Mr. Frank that
sarcasm is difficult to communicate via a printed medium. Sarcastic postings
need to be extremely well crafted in order to work. Since posters to the net
do not have the luxury of such means of communication as facial expression or 
tone of voice, it becomes exceedingly tricky to successfully use sarcasm in
print.

On second thought, articles such as this do go down well in net.bizarre,
where there is a forum for sarcasm and/or stupidity. In net.bizarre, most
(I would hope all) readers know that everything they read needs to be taken
with a pound of salt. So if sarcasm was intended by Mr. Frank perhaps he should
post it there. (No disrespect or derision is intended against net.bizarre.
It is incredibly entertaining as long as it is approached with the right
attitude, which is, basically, anything goes, so don't let anything offend
you.)

If Mr. Frank was indeed serious in posting his article, I would suggest that
he do one or more of the following:

	1) Learn some tollerance

	2) Broaden his horizons (ie. don't assume that only his attitudes
	   are the proper ones)

        3) Refrain from posting under the influence (of whatever) (if indeed
	   he was)

        4) Not be insulting without a reason, and if he has one (or more)
	   state it (or them)

But enough from me.


				     Barth Richards
				     Tellabs, Inc.
				     Lisle, IL

				     "If God's up there, we're his excrement."
				     -Ron Geesin