Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site udenva.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!seismo!hao!nbires!boulder!cisden!udenva!bbellows From: bbellows@udenva.UUCP (Bambi) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.flame Subject: Re: Stick it in yer ear. Message-ID: <898@udenva.UUCP> Date: Wed, 9-Oct-85 17:43:41 EDT Article-I.D.: udenva.898 Posted: Wed Oct 9 17:43:41 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 12-Oct-85 07:28:50 EDT References: <502@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: U of Denver Lines: 168 Xref: linus net.politics:10762 net.flame:11370 > Oye, Got, Goyim! I cannot represent all Jews, and wouldn't try; but, there are some errs in your logic that I cannot let pass: 1) Yes, the Children of Abraham are as numerous as the sands on the Earth. Abraham was the father of Isaac and Esau. Isaac started the Judeo-Christian Culture; Esau started the Moslem culture. By your numbers, that is 13.5 million Jews, 2.something billion Christians, and 2.something billion Moslems. To me, that's a lot of people... Wait! The Christians aren't Jews! Ahhh, but, Jesus was Jewish, now wasn't he? And, most of his followers were Jewish, weren't they? Golly. How could you have forgotten that the vast majority of the early Christians were Jews in Drag? They believed that Christ was God. Well, that is their perogative. Most Jews that I know think that Christ was a nice Jewish boy. Then, who was it? Someone in your early history decided that following the laws of Moses, and the theories of Jesus were just too hard. Why have two masters? So, they dismissed the 300+ laws of Moses. Poof! Everyone who wanted to eat pork, or go in drag, or commit incest, or hook on the corner could now be saved and do whatever they pleased. Well, given, that didn't last very long. But, that's how you got most of your early Christians who were still sons and daughters of Abraham. Now, let's see what else I can tear apart... Oh, yes, Jews, so far as I have always been taught could not have insulted your Holy Christ by calling him the son of a devil, because they simply hadn't invented a devil. Hell, Damnation, and Fire and Brimstone are all morbid Christian Beliefs which basically say that if you don't do what I want you to do, you'll be damned forever. If that is the kind of religion you choose to believe in, ge gesundte heit. Now, I'm not sure what Br'th means. It could very well mean convenant. I don't know. But, I do know that Ish isn't Men, that's Aishim. Gee, I wish I knew how to thumb through the rest of your garbaje. Well, I suppose I cannot object farther, because I didn't memorize your rather long speech. I can only say that, like it or not, you probably have Jewish Blood in your veins, so, don't descriminate against yourself. > Some of you more recent readers of the various nets may be wondering > why Oded Feingold et alia are all over my case. It's obvious from some of > my submissions that I have no use for the Israeli UN Protectorate, and > that I have all but declared war on the ADL/JDL and their minions. It > should also be obvious that there is bad blood between me and the > International One-World-Government Communist conspiracy. And I also > believe in America First--Without Apology. These four things are usually > enough to send 5,781,000 "Americans" into catatonic fits. (I shouldn't > generalize like that. There are exceptions.) > > The underlieing reason why Oded et alia want my head is because of my > religious beliefs. I happen to believe in Christian Identity. Pure and > simple. > > Understand that there is no way that Judaism can tolerate Identity. The > two cannot coexist, nor can Identity be allowed to exist at all. Identity > says that Christians are God's Chosen People of the Old Testament, the > direct descendants of the Old Testament Israelites. Identity believes that > the covenants given to the Scriptural Israelites by God are still in full > force and effect, and that we are bound to obey them. We also believe that > the United States and Canada are the Promised Land of prophesy. > > Judaism, on the other hand, believes that the Jews are the descendants > of the Israelites, the keepers of the Law and covenants, the Chosen People, > etc., and that the Israeli UN Protectorate is the Promised land. Now do you > see the source of the friction? > > So how widespread is this concept? The Mormons and the Worldwide Church > of God are both considered Identity religions. And they are just the > beginning. Most of us belong to mainstream denominations, such as Roman > Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, etc. We just go to church on Sunday and > blend in with the rest of the Alka-seltzer Christians (you know---they > go to church and fizz for an hour. Then they forget what they heard for > another week). There are a few off-the-wall extremists, who are shunned > by us moderates. > > Now, some of you may say that this concept is neo-Nazi, racist, anti- whoops! anyhow, it could very well be that the U.S. is in the revelation; but, as which country?? > semetic, etc. ad nauseam. Well, let's debunk that rumor. A Nazi is first > and formost a Socialist, more of a Communist than anything else. (Notice > that all my detractors had to give up calling me a Nazi. They knew that > they were so full of s___ that their eyes were brown.) The term "anti- > semite" is a term the Jews love to use. Most people do not understand > that the Jews are not the only Semite people on the planet. Most of the > others are ARABS. (Try telling an Arab that he's an antisemite.) Ahhh, > so Identity MUST be racist. It's the only thing left. Well, yeah, OK. > Maybe. Tell me, if Christians claiming to be the Chosen People are > racists, then howcome Jews who make the same claim are not? Howcome > only one little group of 13.5 million are authorized the claim, and > groups of a billion Christians and a billion Moslems are not allowed > to dispute it? > > Is White Christianity the "master race?" Hell, no! The other peoples > of the Earth go back millions of years before the creation of Adam. They > were here first, and they were given their own lands. It is not up to > Israel or Esau to take those lands. (Isreal and Esau, as used here, are > the two sons of Isaac and their descendants.) Besides, Christ tells us > that there is salvation for all flesh that believes in Him. So who are > we to say that one race is better than another? > > Identity is basically a study of anthropology and geneology. We know > from secular history that the Israelites departed Palestine and fled into > the Caucasus Mountains (hence the term "Caucasian" to describe a person who > is of the "White" race). From there, they scattered throughout Europe. > Various historical evidence, including ancient legends, trace the Israelites > into the British Isles ("Br'th" and "Ish"---"Men of the Covenant") and > into Ireland, among other places. A group of them ended up in "Dansmark." > The most obvious marks of the true Israelites is that they would be completely > blind as to who they were, that they would speak with stammering tongues > (the most difficult language on Earth is English), and that they would be > called by a different name. All other scriptural prophesy will apply > only to the true Israel. > > Now, tell me, how can the Jews claim to have forgotten that they > were Israelites? Have the Jews had their name changed? Are the Jews as > numerous as the stars in the sky? No, my dear people, the Jews have > very little claim to Chosen status. > > Of course, it's acceptable for every other People on this Earth to be > able to trace their roots and history back 5,000 years. But it is never > ever acceptable for a Caucasian to do the same thing. > > Somebody on the net tried to start a discussion recently about "what if > the US really were a Christian Nation?" Originally, it was. Our laws > were based on the concepts of Mosaic law of the Old Testament. But then our > government was corrupted by the same Purveyors of Usury that were con- > demned by Christ as the Sons of Satan. So now we're right back where we > were just before the Captivity and banishment. We worship Baal and the > Golden Calf at the altars of Mystery Babylon the Great, according to the > Traditions of the Elders. Boy, are we going to get our peepees whacked > this time! > Now, if the U.S. were, indeed, a Christian country, as most countries, at one point were, there would be no acceptance of personal deviance. Why not kill the Jews, or the Gypsies (who are obviously wrong in believing in different religions), or the Homosexuals (those nasty people that Paul never liked), or the Women who actually want equality (have they no shame??), or those silly Irishmen who wear skirts (that's a sin, you know?)? Also, why allow deviance within Christianity? We certainly don't need all those sects. Find the one with the largest population... I think that's still the Catholics, and kill the Lutherns, and Methodists, and Baptists, and the Episcopalians, and the Pentacostals? Crimony! A national religion is ridiculous! Certainly most countries were religion based at one point; but, not any longer. Surely, they learned from their mistakes. Back to the Dialogue. > So let Feingold and Rosen and Dimitrovsky and the rest call me all the > names they want. They have no other choice but to do so. > > --Don Black > that's it, Don. *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE *** quit