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From: dce@hammer.UUCP (David Elliott)
Newsgroups: net.flame,net.music,net.music.classical
Subject: Re: Noise pollution (flame)
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Date: Thu, 10-Oct-85 11:25:26 EDT
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Posted: Thu Oct 10 11:25:26 1985
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In article <771@rduxb.UUCP> jmd@rduxb.UUCP (Joseph M. Dakes) writes:
>> I didn't much care for pop music when I was a teen, and I still don't.
>> I am FED UP with having others musical preferences forced on me.
>
>Are you suggesting that you want your musical preferences forced on others?
>

If he didn't say that, you can assume that he isn't suugesting it. There
is nothing wrong with saying "I don't like people forcing their tastes
on me".

>> * At play *  Around here, all the city owned swimming pools are
>>            equipped with metal horn loudspeakers -- the better to
>>            blare top 40 MOR music with.  The park district people
>>            respond "but most people using the pools like it".
>>            Maybe so, but it is my pool too - I pay taxes to
>>            maintain and operate it.
>
>Big whoop!  So do the other people that use the pool.  Remember this is a
>democracy, majority rules.  If you don't like it move somewhere else.
>

There are cities in this country that would disagree with you. When I
was in college, the city had a noise ordinance. You could get arrested
for being too loud.

People have the right to happiness, and happiness includes quiet. Isn't
disturbing the peace still illegal in many places?

>> * At home *  My city gov't thinks it's a great idea to allow
>>            the merchants assoc. to hire rock bands to play in
>>            city parking lots -- LOUD, you can hear it over a
>>            mile away.  I don't LIKE being forced out of my home
>>            by city hall.
>
>It is a great idea.  It gives kids something to do and it keeps them amused.
>And again here, its a democracy.  If you don't like it vote for other
>city leaders.

There's no democracy involved here at all. Cities don't hold elections to
say "let's let rock bands play in parking lots". I agree that the idea is
not a bad one. It does keep kids off the streets and out of the way of
other people, but you can do the same thing by having free or cheap indoor
concerts.

You keep saying "if you don't like the way things are, vote to change them".
I don't know about your city, but it takes 4 years to get rid of a marginally
bad president and various other offices. At best, you can elect new city
officials once every two years. An official has to be pretty criminal to be
thrown out before his term of office is up.

How can it be a democracy if the problems we have now can't get solved for
two years.

Now, if YOU want to allow me to come over to your house and play the
Residents' "Not Available" through a 200-watt P.A. system, then send me
some money. I show you something about forcing musical preferences on
someone.

>
>						Joseph M. Dakes
>						AT&T Bell Laboratories
>						Reading, PA
>						rduxb!jmd

			David Elliott