Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site umn-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!stolaf!umn-cs!chaiklin From: chaiklin@umn-cs.UUCP (Seth Chaiklin) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.politics Subject: Re: State Terrorism Message-ID: <827@umn-cs.UUCP> Date: Mon, 14-Oct-85 18:48:36 EDT Article-I.D.: umn-cs.827 Posted: Mon Oct 14 18:48:36 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 17-Oct-85 01:29:35 EDT References: <903@abnji.UUCP> <1559@hammer.UUCP> Reply-To: chaiklin@umn-cs.UUCP (Seth Chaiklin) Organization: Computer Science Dept., U of Minn, Mpls, MN Lines: 19 Keywords: Very unpopular view Xref: watmath net.flame:12338 net.politics:11514 Summary: In article <1559@hammer.UUCP> dce@hammer.UUCP (David Elliott) writes: [A diatribe about how criminials, Hitler, Capone and others should be treated Basic conclusion: Take off the kid gloves, and bite their heads off.] >Criminals have got to expect to be treated like the dirt that they are. Mr. Elliott puts forward a popular view, but in his haste for immediate action seems to presume that there is an infallible judge who can determine the guilt of a person in all cases. There are several cases of innocent people who were executed in the United States after a trial by jury. Who is going to determine criminality? Who is going to determine the appropriate response? I rather like the idea of due process (even with the obvious mistakes that it commits, see above). Are we less barbaric for acting like criminals towards other criminals? I don't think so. Seth Chaiklin