Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site udenva.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!nbires!boulder!cisden!udenva!awinterb From: awinterb@udenva.UUCP (Art Winterbauer) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.flame Subject: Re: Don Black's "America First" viewpoint (and now to Vietnam) Message-ID: <905@udenva.UUCP> Date: Mon, 14-Oct-85 23:41:30 EDT Article-I.D.: udenva.905 Posted: Mon Oct 14 23:41:30 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 19-Oct-85 06:32:42 EDT References: <674@decwrl.UUCP> <725@whuxl.UUCP> <391@ssc-bee.UUCP> Reply-To: awinterb@udenva.UUCP (Art Winterbauer) Organization: U of Denver Lines: 19 Xref: linus net.politics:10879 net.flame:11471 In article <391@ssc-bee.UUCP> bmac3@ssc-bee.UUCP (Scott Pilet) writes: >> began as a struggle by the Vietnamese themselves to gain their independence >> from French colonialism. Rather than saying we "lost" Vietnam it might >> be more accurate to say that the Vietnamese people won Vietnam in the >> same way that we won our independence from British colonialism 200 years >> ago. > >I suggest you talk to some of the Vietnamese who have escaped from >Vietnam since the fall of Saigon. The ones I have talked to would >disagree with your statement that the Vietnamese people won Vietnam. >It is possible these refugees were unable to adapt to the new >egalitarian regime and those remaining are better off, but that is a >matter of opinion and of ability to interpret history. As a matter of fact, I wonder what happened to the Tories sympathetic to the British cause during the American revolution. What happened to them after the war? Did they become boat people too? If questioned, did they paint a rather grim picture of the United States? Any historians out there? I vaguely recall reading that they were made to feel uncomfortable.