Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site hou2h.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!hou2h!mr From: mr@hou2h.UUCP (M.RINDSBERG) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.politics Subject: Re: State Terrorism Message-ID: <1094@hou2h.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21-Oct-85 13:00:58 EDT Article-I.D.: hou2h.1094 Posted: Mon Oct 21 13:00:58 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Oct-85 06:02:47 EDT References: <903@abnji.UUCP> <1559@hammer.UUCP>, <313@ccivax.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 71 Xref: watmath net.flame:12429 net.politics:11603 > > The implications are that the people of the world, not just the U.S., are > > not going to stand for other people behaving like animals anymore. How > > do you know it isn't the right solution? > > > If someone comes at me with a knife or a gun and tries to do anything to > > me, I will rip that person to shreds or die myself (and if I don't, buddy, > > I will personally invite you to my house to spit in my face). > > You don't know until you have that gun pointing at your head, what your going > to do. Even marines think twice when the enemy has the gun pointed right > and they don't. There were marine POW's in each of our wars. > > > In my opinion, we should have sent forces to Iran and trashed those people > > that messed with us. We should have gone straight into Berlin and bitten > > Hitler's face off. Al Capone lived too long. > > We let Iraq do our dirty work for us, Hitler shot himself before we could > get there, and letting Al Capone die of the Clap was better justice than > anything we could have done! > > > Criminals have got to expect to be treated like the dirt that they are. > > If I drive too fast, I should get a ticket because there is a law against > > it. > > Suppose you were NOT speeding, but the officer give you a ticket to > fill a quota, still want to pay? This is what courts are for. > > > This has nothing to do with whether or not I think a law is right. > > So if they make having blue eyes a capital offence, you will go to the > gas chamber willingly? > > > If I sell heroin, I shouldn't even be protected by illegal search and > > seizure laws. This has nothing to do with rights. > > If DEA agents bust into your house at 4:00 in the morning, and "Find" > heroin that you never knew you had, your going to say "Shoot me"? > > > Criminals, by their very crimes, are saying "we don't believe in rights > > anymore". Fine. > > Even those criminals who confess to their crimes usually attempt to > justify their actions as a reponse to a violation of their rights, > real or imagined. Many self-confessed crimes are committed as "Revenge". > > > You ask what the implications of us taking action are? Ask yourself what > > Russia would have done in the same situation. Ask yourself what you would > > have done in the same situation. > > The Russians shot down the KAL 747 claiming "self defence", we condemed them Were there any terrorists on board KAL747 ??? Did anyone on that plane ever hurt the USSR or its people ??? > harshly for it. We commit piracy, claiming "hot pursuit", and expect the When did we commit piracy ???? All we did was capture wanted criminals under out laws. > world to cheer about it. > > Terrorism is terrorism, be it a war, or the act of rebel forces. Retaliation This does not make sense. War is NOT terrorism. And NOT ALL acts of rebel forces are called terrorism. Mark