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From: hans@erisun.UUCP (Hans Albertson)
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Subject: Re: Unix, Unixpeople, Usenix - from a non-compunerd's point of view...
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Date: Mon, 14-Oct-85 23:01:36 EDT
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To some extent I have to agree. 
To wit: Some, quite a few, of UNIX' proponents are not terribly well
	educated in computer science.
	The awe some seem to feel for the gods, Ritchie, Kernighan,
	Bourne et al is annoying.
But: Not efficient? What version are you using? 4.1 was reasonably
     efficient for the VAX, even in comparison with VMS V2. 4.2 is
     not too bad compared to VMS V4.1. Both trade efficiency for
     functionality. 
     Bad doc? I personally find the man pages of UNIX easier on the
     mind than the diarrhoea of DEC's manual shelves. Difference of
     temperament, no doubt. One thing: While a DEC manual will repeat
     any piece of info some 3-4 times, a UNIX man page is mostly non
     redundant.
     Usenix not on par with ACM. Well. Of course not. Did you expect
     it to? You should compare a Usenix conf with say DECUS. It compares
     quite well, actually.
     UNIX fanatics refusing to discuss other OSes? My favourite is
     TOPS 20. Any day. Not that i've used it as much as UNIX, but
     I recognize excellence when I see it. Soon I may have a chance to
     check on ITS. I have a feeling I'll like that. IBM's VM seems
     like a good design too. BUT, unlike UNIX they are NON-PORTABLE.
     Viciously so. I'll discuss your ears to cinders if you like...
     I was weened on VMS, but it's system calls are just too many,
     with millions of parameters, and they all have to be there every
     time. And it's file system imposes formats on files. IMPOSES!
     not permits. IMPOSES.

Then again, maybe you were just joking.

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