Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 (MC840302); site crin.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!mcvax!vmucnam!crin!tombre From: tombre@crin.UUCP (Karl Tombre) Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Re: Terrorism Inc. Message-ID: <127@crin.UUCP> Date: Tue, 22-Oct-85 10:05:13 EDT Article-I.D.: crin.127 Posted: Tue Oct 22 10:05:13 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 24-Oct-85 06:14:30 EDT References: <487@ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP>, <34@unc.unc.UUCP> <417@stcvax.UUCP> Organization: C.R.I.N Lines: 54 >>The sinking of the Greenpeace ship was NOT an act of terrorism. >>It was an act of sabotage. >> >>Definitions: >> Sabotage -- Secret attack aimed at destroying of enemy property. >> Unintentional civilian deaths may result as an unavoidable >> (and undesired) side-effect. >> >> Terrorism -- Intentional murder or kidnapping of civilians. >> >> Frank Silbermann > >Why would anyone consider an international organization for peace, >which has never initiated any acts of aggression, to be an "enemy"? >Likewise, how does an unarmed ship, owned by such an organization, >constitute "enemy property"? Someone can be an enemy without being armed. The propaganda war is a war like the others, especially when one party (Greenpeace in this case) uses wrong facts and induces many people in errors: - The waters around Mururoa are *NOT* radioactive, rather less than many other places in the world. - The island soil itself has *NOT* been affected by the nuclear explosions. The seismic activity of this region has remained *VERY* low compared to many places where people live without any perceptible earthshake. I put in doubt Greenpeace being an organization for peace. Why then are they going to war against countries? In my opinion, you can only bring to the world the peace you have yourself, in your own life. One can be a man of peace, in every situation of life, but I doubt that this means to have attitudes like the Greepeace people, disrupting others... This being said, it is not at all my intention to present the French government or military as those who are right. No, France *AND* Greenpeace are *both* wrong, they are both warmongers, none of the parties are working *FOR* peace. They are in war with each other, and in war many things are done, not always kind things... In this way, it is an act of sabotage and not of terrorism, as terrorism is the intentional murder or kidnapping of *innocent* civilians, to be more precise than Frank Silbermann. And in my opinion the Greepeace people are not *innocent*. Well, I already see the inhabitants of Netland preparing their flamethrowers, so I'd better go and hide. No no, I am not going to give you my private address (-: -- --- Karl Tombre @ CRIN (Centre de Recherche en Informatique de Nancy) UUCP: ...!vmucnam!crin!tombre or ...!inria!crin!tombre COSAC: crin/tombre POST: Karl Tombre, CRIN, B.P. 239, 54506 VANDOEUVRE CEDEX, France "Car le plus lourd fardeau, c'est d'exister sans vivre." (Victor Hugo)