Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site u1100a.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!u1100a!joec From: joec@u1100a.UUCP (Joe Carfagno) Newsgroups: net.garden Subject: Chemical and organic grub killers Message-ID: <837@u1100a.UUCP> Date: Wed, 16-Oct-85 23:23:38 EDT Article-I.D.: u1100a.837 Posted: Wed Oct 16 23:23:38 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 19-Oct-85 04:21:19 EDT Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway, NJ Lines: 33 Keywords: grubs,bugs,lawn damage >Help, I have Grub's in my lawn. Having dug up and reseeded a large section of lawn due to grub damage this year, I have done some research on the subject. Several chemical insecticides will kill grubs. Oftanol seems to be the most widely recommended by knowledgable folks here in NJ. It, like the other chemical ones, needs to be watered in - that's how it gets to the ugly little things below the ground. Oftanol starts to work quickly, usually completely in 30 days, and has a 6-8 month residual effect. Because of the residual, it can be applied any time, although spring (last year's grubs awakening from winter slumber) and summer (this year's newborns - grubs are Japanese Beetle babies) are best. Other chemicals are tradenamed Dursban and Diazinon. Both have much stricter application times. I have used Oftanol with much success. As with most chemical insecticides, you need to be careful in their handling and application. You also need to apply the stuff every year since Japanese Beetles will lay their eggs in your lawn every summer. There is a product from Reuters Lab. called Grub Attack. It consists of the Milky Spore bacterium. You spread this stuff on the lawn, and when the grubs eat the roots, they get Milky Spore disease and die. Before that, they spread millions of more spore through their excretions. This is how the spores spread throughout the lawn. It takes 2 to 3 YEARS to become fully effective - then you won't have another grub problem for 15 to 20 YEARS. It is more expensive than chemicals at first. You can spend ~$80/year/10K ft2 for chemicals like I did, or $150 for Milky Spore. You still need to spread chemicals for 2 years while the spore takes effect, or the grubs will eat up our lawn. I have also heard, but can not verify, that the chemicals may kill the spore. You have a choice but a bit of advice - TREAT FOR THE GRUBS !!! They found my front lawn to be very delicious this summer. Now, I have major bare spots which are being reseeded. They eat the roots and the whole sod patch comes off like a banana peel. I also have an occasional mole/groundhog problem because they like the tasty critters.