Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ucbarpa!fair From: fair@ucbarpa.BERKELEY.EDU (Erik E. &) Newsgroups: net.ham-radio.packet Subject: Re: IP/TCP bumps and grinds Message-ID: <10663@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Tue, 15-Oct-85 02:58:27 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.10663 Posted: Tue Oct 15 02:58:27 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 16-Oct-85 05:20:18 EDT References: <78@mit-eddie.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.ARPA Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 24 I may have missed the point, but why bother running IP over X.25, when IP (as a pure datagram protocol) is ideally suited to packet-radio? Of course, I'm somewhat flush with missionary spirit right now, since I just finished Michael Padlipsky's book, ``The Elements of Networking Style'' (Prentice-Hall, 1985) It seems to me that if you're the only one doing IP right now, you can build a superior network up from scratch, which might (if you made it easy for them) convince the rest of the packet-radio community to convert by example. I think that it would be terrific to have a public, ARPANET-style resource-sharing network running over packet-radio, instead of an X.25 based terminal-to-computer network which that protocol implies. Also, by running IP over X.25, you're stuck with the limitations of the X.25 protocol (e.g. no alternate routing) unless you're doing something clever that I didn't spot in your description. On the other hand, since this list is based partially on the ARPANET, maybe I'm preaching to the converted... Erik E. Fair ucbvax!fair fair@ucbarpa.BERKELEY.EDU