Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!WEIZMANN.BITNET!UMFORTH From: UMFORTH@WEIZMANN.BITNET Newsgroups: net.lang.forth Subject: FIGIL DIGEST Message-ID: <8510211813.AA09575@UCB-VAX> Date: Mon, 21-Oct-85 03:18:00 EDT Article-I.D.: UCB-VAX.8510211813.AA09575 Posted: Mon Oct 21 03:18:00 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Oct-85 23:57:06 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 64 From: ihnp4!ihlpg!timborn@ucbjade.Berkeley.Edu Message-Id: <8510112140.AA20888@UCB-VAX> Date: 11 Oct 85 15:05:54 CDT (Fri) Received: by ihnp4.ATT.UUCP id AA01512; 11 Oct 85 15:05:54 CDT (Fri) To: ihnp4!ucbvax!WEIZMANN.BITNET!UMFORTH@ucbjade.Berkeley.Edu Subject: Re: FIGIL DIGEST References: <8510110938.AA09626@UCB-VAX.ARPA> As for bringing up Forth on a new chip. If you have a reasonable grasp of Forth internals, you may want to contact the Forth Interest Group (FIG) in California. They will sell (for a nominal price) the sources for Forth for almost any processor around. Although they may not have yours yet, you say it's close to the 6800. Given the source + installation manual + time, you could probably build your own from the ground up. tim ...ihnp4!ihlpg!timborn ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Oct 85 12:10:38 cdt From: ihnp4!stolaf!umn-cs!mmm!plumbo@ucbjade.Berkeley.Edu (Philip Plumbo) Newsgroups: net.lang.forth Subject: re FIGIL DIGEST Organization: 3M Company, St. Paul, Minn. >Sent-From: Barry Megdal >Subject: Forths > >1) I need a good "professional" Forth system for the IBM PC, to use >as a general development environment. Features such as full floating- I would suggest polyForth from Forth, Inc as a professional, consistent, and well-documented implementation of the language for the IBM-PC. I have several years of experience using various Forths in different projects (most recently: The AirFone air-to-ground telephone system) and have found polyForth to be a reliable, fast, and well-debugged system. The kernel uses a simple, efficient multi-tasker, and includes support for source screen 'shadows', which may contain the documentation for a specific screen. The implementation of this feature on the IBM-PC with the IBM monochrome monitor (without graphics card) is extremely fast, giving the user the impression that the documentation lives beneath the source, to be switched into view in an instant. The 'DOCUMENTOR' utility also allows the rapid generation of an application glossary. > >2) I need to bring up a Forth environment on a Motorola 68HC11 processor. Forth, Inc has a wide range of 'target' (cross-) compilers available, including one for the 6800. You would develop, document and maintain on the PC, and ship compiled code to the 6811. The 'target' system would (if desired) have its own Forth interpreter, (multi-tasking) and full dictionary, (useful during development phase), or could be compiled as a minimum-memory turnkey system, with no interpreter, no dictionary heads, etc. to save space. In summary: Fast, professional, maintainable. > >-Barry >Acknowledge-To: -Philip Plumbo ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledge-To: