Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site l5.uucp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!sun!l5!laura From: laura@l5.uucp (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.math Subject: Re: Sc--nce Attack (really on minds and computers) Message-ID: <201@l5.uucp> Date: Sun, 20-Oct-85 13:25:53 EDT Article-I.D.: l5.201 Posted: Sun Oct 20 13:25:53 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Oct-85 05:21:23 EDT References: <299@umich.UUCP> <10699@ucbvax.ARPA> <10700@ucbvax.ARPA> <10702@ucbvax.ARPA> Reply-To: laura@l5.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Organization: Nebula Consultants, San Francisco Lines: 23 Keywords: Turing machines vs. the mind Xref: watmath net.philosophy:2900 net.math:2404 In article <10702@ucbvax.ARPA> tedrick@ucbernie.UUCP (Tom Tedrick) writes: >*IS THERE ANYONE THAT AGREES WITH ME THAT THE HUMAN MIND IS PROVABLY > NOT EQUIVALENT TO A TURING MACHINE?* Me. But not for the reasons that you give. Aristotle propsoed the definiton ``man is a rational animal''. In recent years we have worked very hard on the ``rational'' part but not very hard on the ``animal'' part. I think that the concept of ``living'' is very important to the concept of ``mind''. This does not meant htat it is impossible to construct a living turing machine, but this is not where the efforts in AI have been spent so far. I fear that intelligence may be the easy part, and that it is AL (artificial life) which is the tough one. Laura Creighton l5!laura what's life to an immortal? -- Laura Creighton sun!l5!laura (that is ell-five, not fifteen) l5!laura@lll-crg.arpa