Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.8 $; site uiucdcs Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!mcewan From: mcewan@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU Newsgroups: net.math Subject: Re: Sc--nce Attack (really on minds Message-ID: <28200057@uiucdcs> Date: Thu, 24-Oct-85 00:53:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.28200057 Posted: Thu Oct 24 00:53:00 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 25-Oct-85 04:03:39 EDT References: <10702@ucbvax.ARPA> Lines: 22 Nf-ID: #R:ucbvax.ARPA:-1070200:uiucdcs:28200057:000:692 Nf-From: uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU!mcewan Oct 23 23:53:00 1985 > [Yes, this is exactly the point. Exhibit the turing machine that > is claimed to be equivalent to the human mind, and the human mind > can reason about the system in ways impossible within the system. > Thus we contradict the assumption that the machine was equivalent > to the mind.] As far as I can see, your complete argument is: assumption: The human mind can do things that no machine can do. oconclusion: The human mind can do things that no machine can do. I can't argue with your reasoning, but I can't say that I'm impressed. Scott McEwan {ihnp4,pur-ee}!uiucdcs!mcewan "There are good guys and there are bad guys. The job of the good guys is to kill the bad guys."