Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site aecom.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!petrus!scherzo!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!cmcl2!philabs!aecom!werner From: werner@aecom.UUCP (Craig Werner) Newsgroups: net.med Subject: Re: Re: Risk factors Message-ID: <1955@aecom.UUCP> Date: Sat, 19-Oct-85 00:58:41 EDT Article-I.D.: aecom.1955 Posted: Sat Oct 19 00:58:41 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 21-Oct-85 22:38:37 EDT References: <1939@aecom.UUCP> <796@terak.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: Albert Einstein Coll. of Med., NY Lines: 33 > Which brings up a universally overlooked point when "risk factors" are > quoted... > > -- Does altering the risk factor have any effect? > Doug Pardee -- CalComp Two criteria for true risk factors: 1. The correlation should be statistically significant and of course, reproduceable. 2. It should be dose-dependent. For instance, in american males, heart disease is related to smoking both by the number of years smoked and number of packs (it can be expressed as pack- years.) So quitting smoking does help. As for cholesterol, the higher one's LDL, the higher one's chance of dying early from heart disease. In fact, the dose-relation is not linear - it is more like hyperbolic. And a "normal" cholesterol level of 260 is probably far too high, and "normal" should be revised. (incidentally, the upper limit of normal is defined as 2 std deviations above mean, so by definition, 95% of all people are normal or below. Clearly this is not the case clinically, just statistically.) The recently completed Lipid Research Study has just shown that lowering blood lipid DOES lower risk enough to justify medical intervention. As for high blood pressure, with one small exception, lowering one's pressure and keeping it low, lowers one mortality risk. This is probably the best documented finding in all interventional epidemiology. -- Craig Werner !philabs!aecom!werner "Comedy, like Medicine, was never meant to be practiced by the general public."