Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site othervax.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!linus!philabs!micomvax!othervax!ray From: ray@othervax.UUCP (Raymond D. Dunn) Newsgroups: net.micro.amiga Subject: Amiga impressions et al Message-ID: <708@othervax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 9-Oct-85 10:49:44 EDT Article-I.D.: othervax.708 Posted: Wed Oct 9 10:49:44 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 11-Oct-85 12:21:12 EDT References: <2715@vax4.fluke.UUCP> <244@ssc-vax.UUCP> <2283@sjuvax.UUCP> Reply-To: ray@othervax.UUCP (Raymond D. Dunn) Distribution: na Organization: Philips Information Systems - St. Laurent P.Q., Canada Lines: 67 Summary: >> ........... Why do computer marketing people treat us like >> the idiots like THEY are. What do they think? That we won't understand >> computer graphics? Its not really surprising how marketing people treat us(?), when you consider that in the early days of this newsgroup, and to a lesser extent now, the non-objective hype was flying so freely from us(?), that you would have thought that the Amiga design had somehow overcome the laws of physics! Its quite natural though, issue a vague or not fully understood spec of a new product development, and everyone reads their current personal wish-list into it! For my own part I was mildly disappointed when I saw the Amiga yesterday, after all the buildup it has had. My MAIN impressions: a) It is externally a well designed low-profile machine, with space underneath for a so-so keyboard - layout is ok, but (subjective) feel is mushy. b) The sound demos were very impressive, except voice which was so-so and consonantless (presumably due to too low a sampling rate). c) The 640*200 line display is just that, a 640*200 line display, no better, and no worse than others. When using their workbench, the display is just as fuzzy as on an IBM colour card monitor, and not (in my opinion, and most PC users opinions) suitable for continuous text operation. Yes, important, it does have more colours, so that instead of games etc running in 320*200 mode a la PC, they can run, with more colours, in 640*200 on the Amiga. d) The 640*400 line interlaced display is just that, a 640*400 line interlaced display, no better and no worse than others. I've had a lot of experience with interlacing, and, hype aside, it flickers! Depending on the picture being displayed, the flicker is either acceptable or unusable! The mandril demo has lots of flicker in the visually noisy areas, and none in the 'wash' areas. Another other picture I saw (cant remember its name) was virtually all 'wash', and only flickered round the edges. Yes, the salesman tried to tell me that the flicker was due to both the lighting AND the fact that the building's power supply was noisy! Consider, - if the 640*400 display is acceptable, why doesn't the Amiga use it for its standard text display, since 640*200 is barely adequate for that purpose? e) The multi-tasking worked nicely, and "pulling-down" various running windows was fun. The "8% of the CPU being used" for the bouncing ball demo is misleading hype! Fact: When running two continuously moving demos simultaniously, each slowed down *significantly*, and I would expect, when running a graphics process and a CPU-bound process simultaneously, a similar slowdown would occur. The *data-bus* is the bottleneck here, not the CPU! Incidently, when you see the bouncing ball demo being initialised on the screen, the generation of the graphics does not appear significantly fast, and 200 line resolution is of course, not very impressive on round objects. The movement of the ball is obviously NOT being done by the usual trick of showing a sequence of preformed displays. f) When loading a window with icons, the machine was unexplainably slow, with each icon taking about 1 second to appear. Why? g) When running Basic, the screen was in a 40*25 line mode, why? Probably that was just its initial mode, but it seemed anachronistic. h) The system crashed, and had to be re-booted, four or five times during about 45 minutes of use, in particular, memory full recovery was suspect. Well, that's it. I hope I haven't blasphemed too much, but I have yet to become born-again! Ray Dunn. PC Architecture. Philips Information Systems. ..philabs!micomvax!othervax!ray