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From: peter@graffiti.UUCP (Peter da Silva)
Newsgroups: net.micro.pc,net.micro.atari,net.micro.mac,net.micro.amiga
Subject: Re: DRI agrees to change GEM
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Date: Wed, 9-Oct-85 07:44:44 EDT
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Background for net.micro.amiga-only types... DRI has been sued by apple
for using the Mac desktop. They will be going after the AMIGA next, you
can count on it.

The GEM desktop has been changed: two windows only, no resizable windows,
no trashcan, no horizontal scrollbars. Strange, since none of these things
are original with the Mac, but I guess any lobotomisation would do.

> In article <3226@nsc.UUCP> chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
> >Anyone who's seen a Xerox (anyone with a dandelion want to comment?) will
> >be the first to admit similarities, but Apple went very strongly out in
> >their own direction. The Mac isn't a copy of Xerox' work, it is just
> >influenced by it. From what the releases say, that isn't as true of the Mac
> >and GEM (I haven't seen GEM yet, so I won't comment on it).
> 
> I haven't seen any of the recent Xerox workstations (I used the Alto a
> little), but I figured this was the case.  Xerox introduced (or at least
> popularized) the mouse and icons, but the detailed approaches are quite
> different.  I believe that their interface was based primarily on
> dragging icons to other icons, which only survives in the Finder as the
> Trash and copying files -- in Xerox systems, one would print a file by
> dragging it to the printer icon, and I think one would invoke a program
> on a file by dragging the file to the program's icon (I think the
> printer and trash can were just particular cases of this general
> facility).

I played around with a STAR at NCC-82 here in Houston, and
I remember that, too. You also sent mail by dropping it in your
out-box. The reciever's in-box then changed from an empty-box-icon to
a full-box-icon. Very nice. I hope that when Apple gets around to suing
AMIGA or C= (depending on who they're maddest at), said company will go back
to the pop-up menus and drag-and-drop model instead of lobotimising the
AMIGA like DRI lobotomised GEM.