Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!xerox.arpa!Fischer.pa From: Fischer.pa@XEROX.ARPA Newsgroups: net.micro.atari Subject: Re: Affordable Xerox Star? Message-ID: <851019-155259-2179@Xerox> Date: Sat, 19-Oct-85 18:51:00 EDT Article-I.D.: Xerox.851019-155259-2179 Posted: Sat Oct 19 18:51:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 20-Oct-85 06:41:59 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.ARPA Reply-To: Fischer.pa@Xerox.ARPA Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 28 Good point! However, I like the object-orientation of the STAR Desktop and wish that SOMEONE would make it available in a consumer-affordable form, since Xerox apparently refuses to do so. How about $5000 plus a tad more for the software? Xerox Office Systems announced a new 6085 machine a short while ago (month or two). Its a complete redesign of the (previous expensive) hardware that was needed to run Star. There's also a new incarnation of the Star software called "Viewpoint" (which is even better I'm told, but I never used Star and thus don't have an opinion). It implements (now) more or less what the Mac office promised. I've seen and used it a few times. The hardware is winning too (but I'm biased). It has a microprogrammable CPU, NOT an Intel series chip, although a slave 80186 acts as an IO processor. I can dig up and mail an address for more information to anyone who's interested. (ron) PS- Although I DO work for Xerox (but in a different division) these opinions are honestly my own and hopefully won't be construed as some kind of commercial nonsense. I personally like getting information about products directly from the people who worked on them (but I did not work on the 6085 or Viewpoint).