Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/3/85; site ukma.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!sean From: sean@ukma.UUCP (Sean Casey) Newsgroups: net.micro.atari,net.news.sa Subject: Re: news being bounced off arpanet! Message-ID: <2323@ukma.UUCP> Date: Wed, 23-Oct-85 15:54:41 EDT Article-I.D.: ukma.2323 Posted: Wed Oct 23 15:54:41 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 24-Oct-85 01:10:51 EDT References: <846@mcvax.UUCP> <1954@aecom.UUCP> <1813@saber.UUCP> Reply-To: sean@ukma.UUCP (Sean Casey) Organization: The White Tower @ The Univ. of KY Lines: 37 Xref: watmath net.micro.atari:1476 net.news.sa:195 >Various complaints about arpanet messages sent to usenet people because >some arpanet machine couldn't contact another to forward a mailing list. (Put on your asbestos suit. Here it comes.) This is happening to me too. I once had this happen on net.micro.amiga to the point where I was getting 8 junk mail messages a day. This happened for two weeks (until the involved computers decided to give up). Frankly, this pisses me off. This is not the way the software should behave. I would think that arpa sites would be more responsible than that. This is not something that needs to be handled on an individual basis. The software needs to be changed to do more intelligent things when a mailing list can't go to a particular machine. The obviously correct thing to do would be to mail notices to the person responsible for the forwarding instead of sending personal mail to the poster of the message. Gatewaying articles into arpanet is a Nice Thing, but this brain-damaged behavior is costing Usenet people a lot of money. They have to pay real phone bills! I am quite seriously thinking of writing a program to pull such messages out of my mailbox and mail them back to the offending machine. I think maybe if something like that got posted and people started using it then the people responsible would take action to correct it. I wonder how much money has been wasted because of these messages? Think about my case. Eight messages a day containing the entire source of my postings repeated for two weeks. That's 112 junk mails. You want to pay for it? I don't. (You can remove the asbestos suit now.) Sean -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean Casey UUCP: sean@ukma.UUCP or 915 Patterson Office Tower {cbosgd,anlams,hasmed}!ukma!sean University of Kentucky ARPA: ukma!sean@ANL-MCS.ARPA Lexington, Ky. 40506-0027 BITNET: sean@UKMA.BITNET -------------------------------------------------------------------------------