Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site rochester.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!seismo!rochester!henry From: henry@rochester.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: DRI lawsuit Message-ID: <12169@rochester.UUCP> Date: Tue, 8-Oct-85 13:19:16 EDT Article-I.D.: rocheste.12169 Posted: Tue Oct 8 13:19:16 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 11-Oct-85 07:26:36 EDT Sender: henry@rochester.UUCP Organization: U. of Rochester, CS Dept. Lines: 31 From: Henry.Kautz The Xerox STAR interface is quite different from the Mac/Lisa design. For starters, there are no menus of any kind, only dialog boxes. Icons cannot be dragged. Windows cannot be repositioned arbitrarily on the screen: the most you can do is shorten a window, or ask it to be near the left or right edge of the screen. (Can you say awkward? Sure, you can...) Everything is done with a bunch of function keys. Eg, to move a icon: you click on it; hit MOVE on the keyboard; a message comes up which says "click on destination location"; finally, click where you want it to appear. Selecting regions is different; typing appears after the region, rather than replacing it. Typing special characters in a document is a real tango: you press the function key "KEYBOARD"; a picture of keyboard appears; while holding the function key, you click on buttons to get a special keyboard; finally, you click on the desired key in the screen picture of the keyboard. Changing font styles or sizes is done in an entirely different way... (Get someone else to tell you about the STAR's drawing tools. You can make pretty pictures like MacDraw, but again, the manipulations are incredibly awkward.) In short: Apple was the first company to do a visual interface RIGHT. (Possibly the world's worst visual interface is on the Symbolic's Lisp machines. $100,000+ per machine, and powered by nitroglycerin, but every single systems program does windows, scrolling, menus , etc differently!) ---- Henry Kautz :uucp: {seismo|allegra}!rochester!henry :arpa: henry@rochester :mail: Dept. of Comp. Sci., U. of Rochester, NY 14627 :phone: (716) 275-5766