Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site uwmacc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!seismo!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois From: dubois@uwmacc.UUCP (Paul DuBois) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: MacIntosh Communications Software Message-ID: <1550@uwmacc.UUCP> Date: Fri, 11-Oct-85 11:13:18 EDT Article-I.D.: uwmacc.1550 Posted: Fri Oct 11 11:13:18 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 14-Oct-85 06:22:46 EDT References: <452@bdmrrr.UUCP> Organization: UW-Madison Primate Center Lines: 64 > > I am looking for the "perfect" software package to use on my Mac to use > with Unix. As I understand, one of the most important features of the > communications package should be to emulate a VT-100 (or VT-220). I have found > that second on my priority list is the ability to transfer data via the kermit > protocol. > > In order to satisfy both requirements, I use two software packages: > > 1. MacTerminal - when I "vnews" or do any software > development > > 2. Red Ryder 4.0 - when I download software/ upload text > using Kermit I will make a suggestion that satisfies neither requirement, but works for me. First, a couple of qualifications to the requirements: If you're running Unix, it's pretty much irrelevant whether the package emulates a VT-100/220 specifically or not. What matters is that it emulates *something* (i.e., something besides a teletype :-) ). It does not even matter if the terminial emulated is in /etc/termcap, since you can use your own terminal description and set the TERMCAP environoment variable to point at it. Second, kermit is unnecessary. With these qualifications in mind, what I use is SquirmTerm. This is the terminal program that comes as an example program with Rascal (the language developed at Reed College). I didn't get Rascal for that purpose, but I found, much to my delight, that SquirmTerm is perfectly adequate for my needs. The advantages: - At $99, Rascal is the same price as MacTerminal, plus you get a programming language thrown in for nothing. :-) - The manual gives the termcap entry, and it works. You can use it with vi. It has a couple of vi-specific things, like putting the cursor where the mouse is when you click. Double-click gives you cw, which is convenient, and like MacWrite. The ` key is used for escape which is in the same spot as normal escape keys on many terminals - very convenient. (You get ` with option-` or something. Anyway, this should give you vnews. - You can transfer files both ways. Not a lot of frills, but it works. It doesn't do kermit, but I just use ascii anyway. It transfers in ascii mode *without errors* at 9600 baud on the broadband network to which I am attached. Of course, I run a ramdisk and load the file into that, writing the "real" file onto a disk with binhex. (However, even with the same configuration, the best I could do with Red Ryder without losing characters was 2400 baud.) I keep the system, SquirmTerm and binhex on the ramdisk and use a minifinder. Blindingly fast to load a file, transfer to binhex, convert it, and back to SqT. - Rascal comes with the source for SquirmTerm, so you can hack it yourself if you want. For programmers, this is a plus. - Half the size of Red Ryder. Red Ryder has a bunch of junk I don't need (xmodem, kermit), don't want to load, or waste disk space on. It's not a fancy program, but I like it. 'Course, I'm a Rascal fan, too, so maybe I'm biased. -- | Paul DuBois {allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois --+-- | "The voice of the Lord is full of majesty." | Psalm 29:4