Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site tolerant.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!Glacier!oliveb!tolerant!berry From: berry@tolerant.UUCP (David Berry) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Re: DRI agrees to change GEM ; why?? Message-ID: <174@tolerant.UUCP> Date: Mon, 14-Oct-85 05:16:02 EDT Article-I.D.: tolerant.174 Posted: Mon Oct 14 05:16:02 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 15-Oct-85 08:11:16 EDT References: <3208@nsc.UUCP> <1196@vax1.fluke.UUCP> <3226@nsc.UUCP> <299@ccivax.UUCP> <172@tolerant.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Tolerant Systems, Inc. San Jose, CA Lines: 21 The opinions expressed below are mine, and not necessarily those of my employer or even of Tolerant Systems. > If I were to go out and design a work station that copied the Xerox star > interface, right down to the icons, I would expect to get sued. However, > I would have no qualms about using some of the ideas that Xerox developed > (and Apple refined) in developing a mouse based interface. Look carefully > at Xerox products, then look at the Mac. The lineage is evident, and, > though many argue that the Lisa and Mac "stole" ideas from Xerox, few claim > that Apple did a wholesale rip-off of the Xerox interface. Yes, they both > use mice and window, and menus of differing flavors, but nobody is going to > confuse a Star with a Mac. Now look at GEM, compare it to the Mac user > interface, and see it you can make the same statements. Another point which I don't remember having seen yet is that Apple has licensed the Xerox Star user interface for usage in the Lisa/Macintosh. I don't remember where I picked up this tidbit but it was probably in a very early issue of MacWorld. David W. Berry