Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site uwmacc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!uwvax!uwmacc!rick From: rick@uwmacc.UUCP (the absurdist) Newsgroups: net.news,net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Cleaning up net.sources.mac Message-ID: <1564@uwmacc.UUCP> Date: Wed, 16-Oct-85 13:01:24 EDT Article-I.D.: uwmacc.1564 Posted: Wed Oct 16 13:01:24 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 18-Oct-85 01:27:42 EDT References: <1134@sdcsvax.UUCP> <10674@ucbvax.ARPA> Reply-To: rick@maccunix.UUCP (Rick Keir) Organization: UWisconsin-Madison Academic Comp Center Lines: 34 Keywords: net.shareware.mac Xref: watmath net.news:4074 net.micro.mac:3006 Joel Grey is objecting to the posting of "shareware" on the net. He goes on to assert various things about it probably not being good enough to be sold commercially, which indicate a serious lack of understanding of the realities of micro software avail- ability, and objects to developers being allowed to market their stuff thru the net. (1) A lot of shareware is good. Many items would be almost unmarketable thru conventional software channels (I couldn't find Microsoft Basic for the Mac in this town for MONTHS, dammit. As for developer's utilities, forget it: If it ain't a spreadsheet, they don't stock it....) I find it very useful that things like FEdit come over the net. (2) Most of them are NOT being posted by the developers; rather they are posted by users who liked the stuff and want to share it. Shareware is far more useful to most sites than net.politics, jokes, bizarre, net.jobs (think about it: does your employer really want to pay to provide you with a service that will help you leave and work for someone else....). Shareware actually has some relation to computers: almost all of us are in computer-related work. Few of us are paid to be funny, or job-hunters, or soap-boxing. DON'T CUT OUT THE MOST USEFUL GROUP ON THE WHOLE NET!!! (ok, most useful to me... but there are a LOT of Mac hackers on the net -- that's why net.micro.mac and sources.mac are such full directories.) Thank you. -- "The Policeman's Beard is Half Constructed" -- Racter Rick Keir -- MicroComputer Information Center, MACC 1210 West Dayton St/U Wisconsin Madison/Mad WI 53706 {allegra, ihnp4, seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!rick