Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.8 $; site uiucdcsp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcsp!johnson From: johnson@uiucdcsp.CS.UIUC.EDU Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: DRI lawsuit Message-ID: <24000003@uiucdcsp> Date: Thu, 17-Oct-85 10:03:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uiucdcsp.24000003 Posted: Thu Oct 17 10:03:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Oct-85 05:35:19 EDT References: <12169@rochester.UUCP> Lines: 24 Nf-ID: #R:rochester.UUCP:-1216900:uiucdcsp:24000003:000:1193 Nf-From: uiucdcsp.CS.UIUC.EDU!johnson Oct 17 09:03:00 1985 Actually, the Xerox Star does support dragging icons. For example, a document is printed by COPYing its icon to the printer icon. This admitedly requires an extra button push, but it is essentially the same as dragging an icon. After awhile, I decided that using lots of function keys instead of menus was not such a bad idea. Every program uses the functions, so it didn't take long before I was able to predict how to make a program do what I wanted it to do. I never saw a Star manual, but I wrote a number of documents on Stars. The laser printer made great overhead slides. Window management on the Star is pretty awkward. Even worse is its over-all slowness and lack of concurrency. Worst of all is its method of font selection. The XDE (Xerox Development Environment) interface is much more like that of the Mac, as is that of Smalltalk. All have movable windows, popup menus, and an overall similar feel. The Suntools interface also predated the Mac, though not (I think) the Lisa. One major difference between these systems and the Mac is that they all use two or three button mice and popup (rather than pull-down) menus. I much prefer multibutton mice. Ralph Johnson