Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ernie!mazlack From: mazlack@ernie.BERKELEY.EDU (Lawrence J. &) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Help: How to tell if MacXL (aka Lisa) is most recent Message-ID: <10759@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Mon, 21-Oct-85 17:31:09 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.10759 Posted: Mon Oct 21 17:31:09 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Oct-85 03:37:14 EDT References: <256@ssc-vax.UUCP> <27000009@convexs> <492@aero.ARPA> <804@utai.UUCP> <10670@ucbvax.ARPA> <1575@uwmacc.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.ARPA Reply-To: mazlack@ernie.UUCP (Lawrence J. Mazlack) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 38 >> How can I tell if it is the most current hardware? >>I know that there was a new chip that was put in when it became the XL. > Steve Jobs is a wondrous man: he had only to announce the >Mac XL, and instantly the Lisa 2/10s all over the country were >transformed into Macintoshes. Apple did not change *anything* >about the Lisa when it was announced as the XL. > However, there is supposed to be a fix for the video >board to alter the screen to be closer in size to the Mac. >As far as I know, the XL was out of stock before it became >available, so it is a modification you must get later, not >something that would have been shipped if you'd bought a newer >machine. >-- >Rick Keir -- MicroComputer Information Center, Rm 3130 MACC Funny how Apple users have this real love/hate feeling toward the company: love the hardware, but hate much of how the company operates. Well, this doesn't really answer my query. Apple has just sent me a Lisa (which I suspect is not quite new). As it won't power up, it is over at my friendly dealer getting worked on (putting in a new power supply hasn't done the job). As this machine is supposedly, fresh, new, out of the box, the video chip enhancement should have been made. However, as the Lisa Apple shipped me in August,1985 didn't have it, there is no reason to believe that this one will either (the MacXL was announced sometime around February, 1985). If someone out there can tell me what the chip change is, I maybe able to get it put in (my friendly dealer professes ignorance). By the way, they are not shipping Lisa 2/10s, but Lisa 2s with a 10meg profile. The difference being that the 2/10 had an internal 10 meg hard disk. Why the difference, I don't have a clue. Also by the way, I really like the Lisa/MacXL. The one I bought in 1984 (a Lisa 2/5) is just great. It made no sense to cancel the product just after they renamed it and started to sell it at a more rational price. It still is about the only way to do serious development for the Mac. ...Larry