Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site rochester.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!rochester!quiroz From: quiroz@rochester.UUCP (Cesar Quiroz) Newsgroups: net.physics,net.misc,net.research Subject: Re: Joseph Newman's Energy Machine Message-ID: <12375@rochester.UUCP> Date: Thu, 17-Oct-85 11:45:24 EDT Article-I.D.: rocheste.12375 Posted: Thu Oct 17 11:45:24 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 19-Oct-85 03:58:58 EDT References: <173@tulane.UUCP> <463@iham1.UUCP> Reply-To: quiroz@rochester.UUCP (Cesar Quiroz) Organization: U. of Rochester, CS Dept. Lines: 37 Keywords: nonsense Xref: watmath net.physics:3385 net.misc:8700 net.research:271 Summary: No way! (Just press 'n') (Do I really want to post this?) Sensible people please press 'q', 'n' or whatever is appropriate ... From article <463@iham1.UUCP> (gjphw@iham1.UUCP (wyant)): > > ... > > Newman is working on a healthy paranoia concerning his difficulties in > obtaining a patent. ... Sigh! Potential explanation ahead. > > ... On the other hand, I can appreciate Newman's > refusal to permit this until the patent is safely in his possession. > Me too. Problem is, there may be *nothing* to patent, which can delay the procedures a bit. It may well be true that Newman's machine exhibits some behavior of interest to science (or entertainment). But 800% energy efficiency?????? WAKE UP! As somebody already suggested, what about starting the thing in series with a single bulb, a la battery | thing | bulb and then switching the output to go from the bulb back into the input ports of the machine, bypassing the battery? Unless the bulb and the wiring display a rather remarkable resistance, I would expect a large fraction of the 800% to remain around. Want to see if the bulb (or the machine) fuses away? Now, THAT would be a demo. Cesar (Ever heard of exponential growth?) -- Cesar Augusto Quiroz Gonzalez Department of Computer Science {allegra|seismo}!rochester!quiroz University of Rochester or Rochester, NY 14627 quiroz@ROCHESTER