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From: matt@oddjob.UUCP (Matt Crawford)
Newsgroups: net.physics,net.misc,net.research
Subject: Re: Joseph Newman's Energy Machine
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Date: Thu, 17-Oct-85 15:09:16 EDT
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Posted: Thu Oct 17 15:09:16 1985
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OK, people, enough is enough.  There are too many gullible people
out there and it's time to stop arguing and do the obvious thing.
After the following comments I will make my offer (for a limited
time only, and not available in any store!)

In article <71@oce-rd2.UUCP> hmd@oce-rd2.UUCP (Hubert van Dongen) writes:
>Did anyone happen to measure both voltage and size of both ingoing and
>outcoming currents?
>
>As most people will know P=V*I (power is voltage times current), sothat
>this would be the most elementary test one can imagine to test this
>perpetuum mobile.

While in article <1760@watdcsu.UUCP> sgcpal@watdcsu.UUCP (P.A. Layman) writes:
>Indeed several reliable and independent sources have
>confirmed the performance of this machine.

Here is my offer:  For the sum of US$25,000, payable on delivery,
I will construct a device satisfying any one of the following
descriptions (buyer's choice).  Upon demonstration of the device
in a an accessible location of my choosing and payment of the money,
I will transfer the device and all rights to it to the buyer.

Device #1: an electrical device which takes in 10 volts AC at 1 ampere
	    and puts out 100 volts AC at 1 ampere.  The device will not
	    contain any internal energy sources and the measurements of
	    current and voltage will not be faked.

Device #2: a closed box with a button on top.  The box can be set on a
	    passive wheeled platform or on some wooden dowels and it
	    will move a distance much greater than its own length when
	    the button is pushed.  The floor of the room will not be
	    slanted - the box may be turned around and it will move in
	    the other direction on activation.  The box will not take in
	    or put out any matter for its propulsion.

Device #3: an apparatus incorporating no batteries or other chemical
	    sources of electricity and no moving parts whatsoever, which
	    can light a small electric lamp.

If nobody accepts this offer in the near future, then I will explain
the principle of operation of any one of these devices for the sum of
US$1,000, paid in advance.

Put up or shut up.
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Matt		University	crawford@anl-mcs.arpa
Crawford	of Chicago	ihnp4!oddjob!matt