Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site teddy.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!teddy!rdp From: rdp@teddy.UUCP Newsgroups: net.misc Subject: Re: Joseph Newman's Energy Machine Message-ID: <1453@teddy.UUCP> Date: Fri, 18-Oct-85 11:28:07 EDT Article-I.D.: teddy.1453 Posted: Fri Oct 18 11:28:07 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 21-Oct-85 04:58:31 EDT References: <173@tulane.UUCP> <174@tulane.UUCP> <330@bcsaic.UUCP> <387@aum.UUCP> Reply-To: rdp@teddy.UUCP (Richard D. Pierce) Organization: GenRad, Inc., Concord, Mass. Lines: 26 In article <387@aum.UUCP> freed@aum.UUCP (Erik Freed) writes: >It seems to me that in the interest of *real* scientific objectivity that >anyone who claims it to be a hoax should be able to back that claim up with >scientific evidence. It seems reasonable that Mr Newman want the protection >of a patent before subjecting his invention to detailed public scrutiny. >I am kind of ashamed of the lack of *open-minded* scientific curiosity dis- >played on this net over a fairly interesting phenomona. *WHETHER OR NOT* it >is a hoax. Flames on everyone! >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The burden of proof does not lie on the world to prove Mr. Newman wrong, it lies on Mr. Newman and his supporters to prove themselves right. Similarily, I could claim that I saw a flotilla of flying saucers land and disperse millions of aliens, which I single handedly killed and disposed of the bodies. Now, who needs to prove what? Do you need to prove me wrong or do I need to prove my ridiculous story is correct before you prove it wrong. Let's see what Mr. Newman has to say, sure. But his mere statement nor its description in the press is insufficient proof of anything. If what he is stating is true (800 percent efficiency), then the entire foundation of physics is in serious jeoporady. Note that this violates, very clearly the law of conservation of energy. Who his is director of engineering, Emanuel Velikovsky? :-)