Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site opus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!hao!nbires!opus!rcd From: rcd@opus.UUCP (Dick Dunn) Newsgroups: net.physics,net.misc,net.research Subject: Re: Joseph Newman's Energy Machine (patentability) Message-ID: <143@opus.UUCP> Date: Sat, 19-Oct-85 01:59:30 EDT Article-I.D.: opus.143 Posted: Sat Oct 19 01:59:30 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Oct-85 06:10:18 EDT References: <173@tulane.UUCP> <463@iham1.UUCP> Organization: NBI,Inc, Boulder CO Lines: 32 Xref: watmath net.physics:3403 net.misc:8731 net.research:283 Comments on the patentability of the magic energy machine... > Newman is, for the most part, a self-educated inventor (T. Edison was also > self-educated)... Nice for Mr. Newman, but the bit about Edison is a complete non-sequitur; I'm curious if this was just tossed into the parent article or is something that Newman uses as part of his pitch. > ...Newman is working on a healthy paranoia concerning his difficulties in > obtaining a patent... > However, in criticism, Newman has not demonstrated his device with any > equipment that requires a substantial amount of power ... ...which, no doubt, gives anyone else dealing with the mechanism a healthy paranoia (?) concerning any attempt to get a patent...He may not be attempting to hoodwink people, fine, but non-dishonesty (sic) is not enough reason for a patent. > ...I would like a more careful > examination of the device by some EE's and physicists with a few articles > describing its operation. On the other hand, I can appreciate Newman's > refusal to permit this until the patent is safely in his possession. No, this isn't the way it has to work. Newman has no justification for a patent until it's reasonably clear what's being patented. If the patent office isn't careful, they could end up granting a patent on a step-up transformer! If you don't understand the reason for caution in granting a patent, see the discussion in net.graphics about how someone supposedly claims patent rights to xor cursors! -- Dick Dunn {hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd (303)444-5710 x3086 ...Simpler is better.