Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site btnix.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!mcvax!ukc!icdoc!ist!btnix!titley From: titley@btnix.UUCP (Nigel Titley) Newsgroups: net.physics,net.misc,net.research Subject: Re: Joseph Newman's Energy Machine Message-ID: <34@btnix.UUCP> Date: Mon, 28-Oct-85 06:26:21 EDT Article-I.D.: btnix.34 Posted: Mon Oct 28 06:26:21 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 25-Oct-85 02:46:28 EDT References: <173@tulane.UUCP> Organization: British Telecom, Ipswich, England Lines: 22 Xref: watmath net.physics:3424 net.misc:8750 net.research:288 Xpath: icdoc ivax > The machine which I saw operate today used several lantern batteries > for a power source... connected to the machine's ouput leads were a neon > sign and about 12 florescent tubes (each 5 feet long). When Newman threw > the switch, the lights and sign started to blink on and off... the only > movement seen in the machine itself was a spark every tenth of a second or > so. Obvisouly, 12 florscent tubes cannor be powered by a few lantern > batteries, and there was NO trickery to be seen... it seems that the machine > was actually putting out more energy than it was taking in... the energy Actually, it is quite feasable for a few (sic) lantern batteries to power 12 fluorescent tubes for a short while (up to 1/4 an hour I would estimate). All that is required is a simple inverter, and some credulity on the part of the observer. The real test, as has been pointed out, is if VI(in) < VI(out). What furthur points to fraud is that the lights were made to flash, hence allowing the lantern batteries to depolarize and allowing higher currents to be drawn for short periods. Nigel Titley (British Telecom @ Ipswich) UUCP: ..!ukc!btnix!titley "Reason is out to lunch"